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                    HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                       February 11, 2008                                                                                        
                           1:40 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  called the House  Finance  Committee meeting                                                                
to order at 1:40:01 PM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Mary Nelson                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Thomas Jr.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Karen  Rehfeld,  Director,  Office   of Management   and Budget;                                                                
Mike  Maher,  Director,  Division  of  Administrative  Services,                                                                
Department   of  Environmental   Conservation;   Craig  Tillery,                                                                
Deputy   Attorney    General,   Department    of  Law;   Richard                                                                
Svobodny,   Deputy   Attorney    General,   Criminal   Division,                                                                
Department   of  Law;  Mark   Lewis,  Director,   Administrative                                                                
Services,  Department  of Education  and Early  Development;  Tom                                                               
Lawson,   Director,  Administrative   Services,   Department   of                                                               
Fish   and   Game;  Gail   Fenumiai,   Director,    Division   of                                                               
Elections,   Office  of  the  Lieutenant   Governor;  Guy   Bell,                                                               
Assistant    Commissioner     and    Director,    Division     of                                                               
Administrative   Services,  Department  of  Labor  and Workforce                                                                
Development   Labor;   Leta   Simons,   Director,   Division   of                                                               
Support   Services,   Department   of  Natural   Resources;   Dan                                                               
Spencer,   Director,   Division   of  Administrative   Services,                                                                
Department   of   Public   Safety;  Jerry   Burnett,   Director,                                                                
Division  of Administrative   Services,  Department  of Revenue;                                                                
Chris  Christensen,   Deputy  Administrative   Director,   Alaska                                                               
Court   System;   Larry  Cohen,   Executive   Director,    Alaska                                                               
Judicial   Council;   Nancy   Slagle,   Director,   Division   of                                                               
Administrative   Services,  Department   of  Transportation   and                                                               
Public Facilities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Tom  Chapple,  Director,  Division  of  Air  and Water  Quality,                                                                
Department   of  Environmental   Conservation;   Bill  Griffeth,                                                                
Facilities  Program  Manager, Division  of Water  Public Safety,                                                                
Department  of  Environmental  Conservation;   Pat  Pitney,  Vice                                                               
President, Planning and Budget, University of Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 194     "An  Act  relating  to  fines  for  certain  offenses                                                                
           involving  aeronautics,  alcoholic  beverages,  boats,                                                               
           fish  and  game,  health   care  records  and   public                                                               
           health,   medical   review    organizations,    public                                                               
           restroom   facilities,   smoking,   shelter   cabins,                                                                
           refrigerators   and   similar  equipment,   radiation                                                                
           sources,    high   voltage    lines,   child    labor,                                                               
           employment    in    underground    mines,    marriage                                                                
           licenses,  motor  vehicles   and  driver's  licenses,                                                                
           ignition  interlock  devices,  pipelines,  use of  the                                                               
           state  seal,  and emissions   requirements;  relating                                                                
           to  the maximum  fine  provided   for violations   and                                                               
           infractions   and   to  the   definition   of   'minor                                                               
           offenses';   redesignating   certain  fish  and   game                                                               
           misdemeanor   offenses   as  class   A  misdemeanors;                                                                
           relating   to  violations   and  offenses   that   are                                                               
           committed  on state land,  water,  and land and  water                                                               
           or that  are related  to water management  or dam  and                                                               
           reservoir   safety;   amending   Rule   8(b),   Alaska                                                               
           District  Court  Rules  of  Criminal  Procedure;   and                                                               
           providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           HB 194 was POSTPONED.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 343     "An   Act   making    supplemental    appropriations,                                                                
           capital   appropriations,    reappropriations,     and                                                               
           other      appropriations;      amending      certain                                                                
           appropriations;   ratifying   certain   expenditures;                                                                
           making  appropriations   to   capitalize  funds;   and                                                               
           providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           HB  343  HEARD  and HELD  in  Committee   for further                                                                
           consideration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HJR 2      Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the                                                                    
           State  of Alaska  requiring  an  affirmative  vote  of                                                               
           the people  before  any form  of gambling  for  profit                                                               
           may be authorized in Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           HJR was POSTPONED.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 343                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making supplemental appropriations, capital                                                                        
     appropriations,       reappropriations,       and      other                                                               
     appropriations;     amending     certain    appropriations;                                                                
     ratifying   certain  expenditures;   making  appropriations                                                                
     to  capitalize   funds;  and  providing  for  an  effective                                                                
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  REHFELD,  DIRECTOR,  OFFICE   OF MANAGEMENT   AND BUDGET,                                                                
OFFICE   OF   MANAGEMENT   AND   BUDGET   (OMB),   oriented   the                                                               
committee and began the process.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 7-9.  Support for the Climate Change Work Group                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Support for the Climate Change work group process,                                                                   
           with an extended lapse date through June 30, 2009.                                                                   
                                                        $230,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  MAHER,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                
DEPARTMENT   OF ENVIRONMENTAL   CONSERVATION   (DEC),  explained                                                                
the  item  as  a  result  of  Administrative   Order  238  for  a                                                               
climate  change  task force  process  at  $230,000  General  Fund                                                               
(GF)  with  an  extended  lapse  date  through   June  30,  2009.                                                               
There have been discussions at the sub-committee level.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:42:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  wondered  if  the  item,  as an  administrative                                                                
order,  should be funded  through  the Governor's  office  rather                                                               
than  through  DEC. Mr.  Maher  responded  that the  request  was                                                               
in  DEC's budget  because  the  commissioner,   as chair  of  the                                                               
task force, would be formulating costs and expending funds.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked  if the  program  is  ongoing.  Mr.  Maher                                                               
was not  certain, which  was the  reason for  the extended  lapse                                                               
date.  He  explained   that  when  the   Alaska  Climate   Impact                                                               
Assessment  Commission  provides  recommendations,  there  may be                                                               
other  needs identified  for  a variety  of agencies,  including                                                                
DEC.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault  asked   if  the  department's   uncertainty                                                                
explained  why the  funds are not  in the operating  budget.  Mr.                                                               
Maher  said that any  remaining  balance would  be carried  over.                                                               
He  acknowledged  uncertainty   regarding  additional  requests.                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  when  the  department  would  know  if                                                               
they intended to request additional funds.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TOM  CHAPPLE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  AIR  AND WATER  QUALITY,                                                                
DEPARTMENT   OF  ENVIRONMENTAL    CONSERVATION   (Testified   via                                                               
Teleconference),   explained  that  work groups  are  forming  to                                                               
meet  for  nine   months  to  one  year  in  order   to  draft  a                                                               
strategy for addressing climate.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 13.  Village Safe Water Study                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           13(b)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($120,671  GF)  from                                                               
           Stebbins  - Water and  Sewer Improvements  (38)  (Sec.                                                               
           135,  Ch. 103,  SLA  1995,  Pg 58,  Ln  11)  to a  new                                                               
           Village  Safe Water  Study,  Design and  Construction                                                                
           Projects allocation.                                                                                                 
           13(c)  Transfer   unused  balance   ($1,945,738   Fed)                                                               
           from  Environmental   Protection  Agency   Indian  Set                                                               
           Aside Grants  (ED 99)  (Sec. 135,  Ch. 103, SLA  1995,                                                               
           Pg 58,  Ln 35)  to a  new Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                         
           13(d)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design and  Construction  Projects  $2,066,409  - Sec.                                                               
           135, Ch. 103, SLA 1995.                                                                                              
           13(e)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($55,000  GF)  from                                                               
           Engineering/Feasibility   Studies  (ED 99) (Sec.  100,                                                               
           Ch. 123,  SLA 1996,  Pg 47,  Ln 25) to  a new Village                                                                
           Safe Water  Study, Design  and Construction  Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(f)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction   Projects  - Sec.  100,  Ch.                                                               
           123, SLA 1996.                                                                                                       
           13(g) Transfer  unused  balance ($49,503.69  GF  Match                                                               
           +  $49,503.70   Fed)  from  Lower   Kuskokwim   School                                                               
           District   -  Tuntutuliak   School   Sewage  Disposal                                                                
           Feasibility   Study/Design  (ED  39)  (Sec.   82,  Ch.                                                               
           100, SLA  1997, Pg 46,  Ln 14) to  a new Village  Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(h) Transfer  unused  balance ($59,662.26  GF  Match                                                               
           + $59,662.25  Fed) from  Village Of  Kipnuk - Aquifer                                                                
           Storage  and  Recovery  Demonstration  Study  (ED  39)                                                               
           (Sec.  82, Ch.  100,  SLA 1997,  Pg  46, Ln  32) to  a                                                               
           new   Village   Safe    Water   Study,   Design    and                                                               
           Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                    
           13(h)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and  Construction  Projects  -  Sec.  82,  Ch.                                                               
           100,  SLA 1997.  Scope  change  needed  to  allow  for                                                               
           Village   Safe   Water    Design   and   Construction                                                                
           Projects.                                                                                                            
           13(i)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction   Projects  - Sec.  131,  Ch.                                                               
           139,  SLA 1998.  Scope  change  needed  to  allow  for                                                               
           Village   Safe   Water    Design   and   Construction                                                                
           Projects.                                                                                                            
           13(i)  Transfer   unused   balance   ($21,000   Fed  +                                                               
           $21,000  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Kwethluk  Housing   Water                                                               
           Systems  Improvement  Study  (ED  39) (Sec.  131,  Ch.                                                               
           139, SLA  1998, Pg  43, Ln 3)  to a new  Village  Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(j)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($68,140.59  Fed  +                                                               
           $68,140.58    AHFC   Rcpts)    from   Gulkana    Water                                                               
           Modernization  Project  (ED  36)  Sec. 131,  Ch.  139,                                                               
           SLA  1998,  Pg  44, Ln  17)  to  a  new Village   Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(k)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($379,101.15  Fed  +                                                               
           $6.07  AHFC  Rcpts)   from  Badger  Richardson   Water                                                               
           Supply  Design  (ED 29-34)  (Sec.  131, Ch.  139,  SLA                                                               
           1998,  Pg 45,  Ln 10)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(k)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and  Construction   Projects   $515,382   Sec.                                                               
           131, Ch. 139, SLA 1998.                                                                                              
           13(l)  Scope  change  needed  to allow  for  match  by                                                               
           any federal agency, not just RDA.                                                                                    
           13(m)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($11,837.60  Fed  +                                                               
           $5,915.42  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Crooked  Creek   Johnny                                                               
           John Sr.  School Sewer  System Feasibility  Study  (ED                                                               
           36) (Sec.  100, Ch.  2, FSSLA  1999, Pg  41, Ln 7)  to                                                               
           a  new   Village   Safe  Water   Study,   Design   and                                                               
           Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                    
           13(m)  Transfer   unused  balance  ($9,299.99   Fed  +                                                               
           $4,639.98  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Crooked  Creek   Master                                                               
           Plan (ED  36) (Sec.  100, Ch.  2, FSSLA  1999, Pg  41,                                                               
           Ln 10)  to a  new Village  Safe  Water  Study, Design                                                                
           and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                
           13(n)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($11,966.07  Fed  +                                                               
           $5,982.95  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Old Harbor  Sanitation                                                                
           Improvements  Feasibility   Study  (ED 6)  (Sec.  100,                                                               
           Ch. 2,  FSSLA 1999,  Pg 42,  Ln 15) to  a new Village                                                                
           Safe Water  Study, Design  and Construction  Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(n)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction   Projects  - Sec.  100,  Ch.                                                               
           2, FSSLA  1999.   Scope  change  needed  to allow  for                                                               
           Village   Safe   Water    Design   and   Construction                                                                
           Projects.                                                                                                            
           13(o)  Scope  change  needed  to allow  for  match  by                                                               
           any federal agency, not just EPA.                                                                                    
           13(p)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($526,635.57  Fed  +                                                               
           $263,364.43  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Tununak   Flush  Tank                                                               
           And Haul  (ED 38)  (Sec. 100,  Ch. 2,  FSSLA 1999,  Pg                                                               
           44,  Ln  10)  to a  new  Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                                
           Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                         
           13(p)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction   Projects  - Sec.  100,  Ch.                                                               
           2, FSSLA  1999.   Scope  change  needed  to allow  for                                                               
           any federal  agency and  to allow  Village Safe  Water                                                               
           Study Projects.                                                                                                      
           13(q)  Scope  change  needed  to allow  for  match  by                                                               
           any federal agency, not just RDA.                                                                                    
           13(r) Transfer  unused  balance ($58,378.07  GF)  from                                                               
           Rampart  Water And  Sewer (ED  36) (Sec.  100, Ch.  2,                                                               
           FSSLA  1999, Pg  45,  Ln 21)  to  a new  Village  Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(r)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction   Projects  - Sec.  100,  Ch.                                                               
           2, FSSLA 1999.                                                                                                       
           13(s)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and  Construction   Projects  -  Sec.  1,  Ch.                                                               
           135,  SLA 2000.  Scope  change  needed  to  allow  for                                                               
           Village   Safe   Water    Design   and   Construction                                                                
           Projects.                                                                                                            
           13(s)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($28,614.57  Fed  +                                                               
           $9,538.19  AHFC Rcpts)  from  Akhiok Water  And  Sewer                                                               
           Improvements  Feasibility  Study (ED  6) (Sec.  1, Ch.                                                               
           135, SLA  2000, Pg  6, Ln 12)  to a new  Village  Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(t)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($25,179.02  Fed  +                                                               
           $8,393.01  AHFC   Rcpts)  from  Ivanof  Bay  Landfill                                                                
           Water  Quality   Protection   Study  And  Preliminary                                                                
           Design  (ED 40)  (Sec. 1,  Ch. 135,  SLA  2000, Pg  7,                                                               
           Ln 10)  to a  new Village  Safe  Water  Study, Design                                                                
           and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                
           13(t)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($43,895.02  Fed  +                                                               
           $14,631.68  AHFC Rcpts)  from Kaltag  Master Plan  (ED                                                               
           36) (Sec.  1, Ch.  135, SLA  2000, Pg 7,  Ln 13)  to a                                                               
           new   Village   Safe    Water   Study,   Design    and                                                               
           Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                    
           13(u)  Transfer   unused   balance   ($63,717   Fed  +                                                               
           $21,239  AHFC  Rcpts)   from  Nuiqsut  Sewage   Lagoon                                                               
           Closure  Feasibility  Study (ED 37)(Sec.  1, Ch.  135,                                                               
           SLA 2000,  Pg 8,  Ln 3) to  a new Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(v)  Transfer   unused   balance   ($73,500   Fed  +                                                               
           $24,500  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Saint  George  Water  And                                                               
           Sewer  System Planning  Study  (ED  40) (Sec.  1,  Ch.                                                               
           135, SLA  2000, Pg  8, Ln 11)  to a new  Village  Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(w)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($20,684.79  Fed  +                                                               
           $6,894.93  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Saxman  Water  Storage                                                                
           Design Study  (ED 1)  (Sec. 1, Ch.  135, SLA 2000,  Pg                                                               
           8,  Ln  16)  to  a  new  Village  Safe  Water   Study,                                                               
           Design and Construction Projects allocation                                                                          
           13(x)  Scope  change  needed  to allow  for  match  by                                                               
           any federal agency, not just EPA.                                                                                    
           13(y)  Transfer   unused  balance   ($225,000   Fed  +                                                               
           $75,000  AHFC Rcpts)  from  Savoonga Water  And  Sewer                                                               
           Project  (Sec. 1,  Ch. 135,  SLA  2000, Pg  9, Ln  13)                                                               
           to  a  new  Village  Safe  Water  Study,   Design  and                                                               
           Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                    
           13(y)  New  allocation:  Village   Safe Water   Study,                                                               
           Design  and  Construction   Projects  -  Sec.  1,  Ch.                                                               
           135,  SLA 2000.  Scope  change  needed  to  allow  for                                                               
           any federal  agency and  to allow  Village Safe  Water                                                               
           Study Projects.                                                                                                      
           13(z)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($94,393.63  Fed  +                                                               
           $31,464.54  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Allakaket  Sanitation                                                                
           Facilities  Improvement  Plan  (Sec.  1, Ch.  61,  SLA                                                               
           2001,  Pg 11,  Ln 29)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(aa)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design and  Construction  Projects  - Sec. 1, Ch.  61,                                                               
           SLA 2001.  Scope change  needed to  allow for Village                                                                
           Safe Water Design and Construction Projects.                                                                         
           13(aa)  Transfer   unused  balance   ($56,200   Fed  +                                                               
           $18,800  AHFC  Rcpts) from  Rampart  Solid  Waste  and                                                               
           Water Quality  Protection  Plan (Sec.  1, Ch. 61,  SLA                                                               
           2001,  Pg 13,  Ln 18)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(bb)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($10,682.06  Fed  +                                                               
           $3,560.69  AHFC  Rcpts)   from  Chistochina  Facility                                                                
           Plan  (Sec. 1,  Ch.  1, SSSLA  2002,  CH 1,  Page  29,                                                               
           Line 28)  to a new Village  Safe Water  Study,  Design                                                               
           and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                
           13(cc)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($17,160.79  Fed  +                                                               
           $5,720.26  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  False Pass  Wastewater                                                                
           Treatment  and Disposal  Feasibility  Study  (Sec.  1,                                                               
           Ch. 1,  SSSLA 2002,  Pg 29,  Ln 28) to  a new Village                                                                
           Safe Water  Study, Design  and Construction  Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(cc)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1, Ch.  1,                                                               
           SSSLA  2002.   Scope  change   needed  to  allow   for                                                               
           Village   Safe   Water    Design   and   Construction                                                                
           Projects.                                                                                                            
           13(dd)  Transfer   unused  balance   ($182,000   GF  +                                                               
           $1,200,000   Fed   +   $218,000   AHFC   Rcpts)   from                                                               
           Tuluksak  Water  and Sewer  Project  - Phase  I  (Sec.                                                               
           1,  Ch.  1, SSSLA  2002,    Pg  31,  Ln 9)  to  a  new                                                               
           Village  Safe Water  Study,  Design and  Construction                                                                
           Projects allocation.                                                                                                 
           13(dd)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1, Ch.  1,                                                               
           SSSLA  2002. Scope  change  needed  to  allow Village                                                                
           Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                           
           13(dd)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($1,042,500  Fed  +                                                               
           $347,500  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Tuntutuliak   Water  and                                                               
           Sewer Project  (Sec.  1, Ch.  1, SSSLA  2002,  Pg  35,                                                               
           Ln 11)  to a  new Village  Safe  Water  Study, Design                                                                
           and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                
           13(ee)  Transfer   unused  balance  ($525,000   Fed  +                                                               
           $175,000  AHFC Rcpts)  from  Alatna Water  Supply  and                                                               
           Sewage  Collection  and  Treatment   Project  Phase  4                                                               
           (Sec. 1,  Ch. 82,  SLA 2003,  Pg 20, Ln  23) to a  new                                                               
           Village  Safe Water  Study,  Design and  Construction                                                                
           Projects allocation.                                                                                                 
           13(ff)  Transfer   unused  balance   ($66,000   Fed  +                                                               
           $22,000  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Egegik  Water  and  Sewer                                                               
           Improvement  Project  Phase  4 (Sec.  1,  Ch. 82,  SLA                                                               
           2003,  Pg 21,  Ln 22)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study, Design  and Construction  Projects  allocation                                                                
           13(gg)  Transfer  unused  balance  ($1,473,750  Fed  +                                                               
           $491,250   AHFC  Rcpts)   from  Tuluksak   Sanitation                                                                
           Facilities  Construction  Phase  2  (Sec.  1, Ch.  82,                                                               
           SLA  2003,  Pg  23, Ln  28)  to  a  new Village   Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(gg)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design and  Construction  Projects  - Sec. 1, Ch.  82,                                                               
           SLA  2003.     Scope  change   needed  to  allow   for                                                               
           Village Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                   
           13(hh)  Transfer   unused  balance   ($16,500   Fed  +                                                               
           $5,500  AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Delta  Junction  Downtown                                                                
           Water  and Sewer  Master  Plan (Sec.  1,  Ch. 82,  SLA                                                               
           2003,  Pg 24,  Ln 26)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(ii)  Transfer  unused  balance   ($9,025.56  Fed  +                                                               
           $3,008.52   AHFC    Rcpts)   from   Port   Protection                                                                
           Wastewater  Engineering  Study  (Sec. 1,  Ch. 82,  SLA                                                               
           2003,  Pg 25,  Ln 21)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(ii)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design and  Construction  Projects  $34,034 - Sec.  1,                                                               
           Ch. 82,  SLA 2003. Scope  change needed  to allow  for                                                               
           Village Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                   
           13(jj)  Transfer   unused  balance  ($847,500   Fed  +                                                               
           $282,500  AHFC   Bond  Proceeds)   from  Hyder   Sewer                                                               
           System  Development  Phase  1 (Sec.  1, Ch.  159,  SLA                                                               
           2004,  Pg 22,  Ln 27)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water                                                               
           Study,    Design     and    Construction     Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(kk)  Transfer   unused  balance  ($531,000   Fed  +                                                               
           $177,000  AHFC  Bond  Proceeds)  from Kivalina   Sewer                                                               
           and Water  Haul System  (Sec.  1, Ch.  159, SLA  2004,                                                               
           Pg 23,  Ln  5) to  a new  Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                         
           13(ll)  Transfer   unused  balance  ($687,000   Fed  +                                                               
           $229,000    AHFC   Bond   Proceeds)    from   Koyukuk                                                                
           Sanitation  Improvement   Project  Phase  2  (Sec.  1,                                                               
           Ch. 159,  SLA 2004,  Pg 23,  Ln 11) to  a new Village                                                                
           Safe Water  Study, Design  and Construction  Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(mm)  unused  balance  ($2,190,000  Fed  + $730,000                                                                
           AHFC   Bond  Proceeds)   from   Tuluksak   Sanitation                                                                
           Facilities  Construction  Phase  3 (Sec.  1, Ch.  159,                                                               
           SLA  2004,  Pg  24, Ln  18)  to  a  new Village   Safe                                                               
           Water  Study,   Design   and  Construction   Projects                                                                
           allocation.                                                                                                          
           13(mm)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design  and  Construction   Projects  -  Sec.  1,  Ch.                                                               
           159,  SLA 2004.  Scope  change  needed  to  allow  for                                                               
           Village Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                   
           13(nn)  Transfer   unused  balance  ($798,750   Fed  +                                                               
           $266,250  GF Match)  from  Brevig  Mission  Water  and                                                               
           Sewer  Connections  (Sec.  1, Ch.  3, FSSLA  2005,  Pg                                                               
           48,  Ln  20)  to a  new  Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                                
           Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                         
           13(nn)  New allocation:   Village  Safe  Water  Study,                                                               
           Design  and Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1, Ch.  3,                                                               
           FSSLA  2005.   Scope  change   needed  to  allow   for                                                               
           Village Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Maher  explained  the net  zero supplemental   closing out  a                                                               
number  of  village  safe  water projects   and making  balances                                                                
available for other priority items.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if the  money  was being  reallocated                                                                
because  the projects  were  complete.  Mr. Maher  answered  that                                                               
that was  correct for  most projects.  Other  projects have  been                                                               
canceled  and those  monies  transferred  as well,  including  to                                                               
finished projects that have come up short on funding.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:47:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  asked if  the villages  were notified  of                                                               
cancelled projects.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL GRIFFETH,  FACILITIES  PROGRAM  MANAGER,  DIVISION OF  WATER                                                               
PUBLIC  SAFETY, DEC  (Testified  via Teleconference),  specified                                                                
that  existing   allocations  would   be  reduced  for  projects                                                                
completed  for  less than  the  allocated  amount,  projects  for                                                               
which  federal   funding  has  been  withdrawn,   and  cancelled                                                                
projects.  Those   communities  are  aware  of  the  reductions.                                                                
Some   communities   are  trying   to   meet  requirements    for                                                               
projects  to  move  ahead.   If  the  projects  cannot  proceed,                                                                
those  communities  will  be  notified  of  the reallocation   of                                                               
funds and how the projects can be gotten back on track.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  emphasized  the need  to let people  know                                                               
if projects are cancelled.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:49:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Nelson  assumed  the projects  mentioned are  not                                                               
the complete  list  of village  safe  water projects,  but  those                                                               
that need  a reallocation  of funds.  She referenced  the  Denali                                                               
Commission  report  regarding   certain  projects  that  are  not                                                               
feasible due to energy costs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Griffin  confirmed  the  assumption.  He  added  that  there                                                               
were two  reasons for  the request:  first, completing  projects                                                                
so federal  funds are  not lost,  and second,  previously  funded                                                               
projects need additional funding.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   asked   if  the   department   prioritizes                                                                
funding with the newly allocated funds.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Griffin answered  that  the  new allocations   will only  be                                                               
awarded   to  projects  approved   through   the  priority   list                                                               
process,  and  to  projects  that  are allowable   under federal                                                                
guidelines  for grants  to the state.  He elaborated  that  funds                                                               
have  not  been  reallocated  yet,  but  communities   have  been                                                               
notified  that   more  funds  may  be  available  for  projects.                                                                
Those  requests   will  be  reviewed   by  the  same  state   and                                                               
federal  agencies that  used the  original project  request.  The                                                               
department  will  make sure  they will  be able  to complete  the                                                               
projects with any additional funding provided.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked for  more detail  regarding  the  Ocean                                                               
Ranger Program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section  13(a).    Water Quality   Implementation  of  the  Ocean                                                               
     Ranger Program                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           The contract  needs  to be  established  early  enough                                                               
           to allow  the  contractor  to  hire  and  train  Ocean                                                               
           Rangers  prior to the  season beginning  in May  2008.                                                               
           The contractor  will  incur substantial  expenditures                                                                
           for hiring,  training,  and  purchasing  equipment  in                                                               
           preparation  for the  upcoming  season.   In addition                                                                
           to  the   contractor's   costs,  the   department   is                                                               
           incurring  expenditures  for  paying staff  and  other                                                               
           expenditures for implementation of the program.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Maher  explained  that  the  request  is  for  $2.8 million                                                                
from  the Cruise  Ship  Vessel  Fund.  He  reminded  the finance                                                                
committee  that  after conference  committee  the  previous  year                                                               
the  department   ended  up  with   $1.2  million  in  the   base                                                               
budget.  The additional  $2.8 million  reflected  in the request                                                                
brings  the total to  $4 million,  which is the  projected  berth                                                               
tax per  year. It  maximizes  the revenue  available  to put  the                                                               
program together.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if the  Ocean  Ranger program  can  be                                                               
completed with the $4 million from the berth tax.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:54:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mike  Maher stated  that the  department  put together  the  best                                                               
program  possible  within  projected  revenue.    The department                                                                
does not intend to seek further funds for the program.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  voiced   concern  that  ineffective   but                                                               
high-costing  technology  has been  applied to  waste management                                                                
monitoring.  He  hoped  that better,  lower  costing  technology                                                                
would be researched and considered to manage the program.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Joule  emphasized  that  some  communities   are                                                               
facing  significant  challenges  related to climate  change.   He                                                               
asserted   that  requests   would  need   to  come  through   the                                                               
supplemental  process  before  fall  in  order  to get  the  work                                                               
done in a timely manner. He asked for comment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Maher   noted  there   are  funds  in   the  Department   of                                                               
Commerce budget to address some of the issues.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  elaborated  that  there  was a  request  under  the                                                               
Department  of  Commerce  for  $1.2  million  (Line  84, Climate                                                                
Change  Impact  Mitigation).   She  explained   that  a planning                                                                
component  needed  to occur  in  order to  address  needs of  the                                                               
impacted  communities.   Various   federal  and  state  agencies                                                                
need to coordinate to come up with a request.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:58:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Joule emphasized   the critical  nature  of  the                                                               
problem.  He  hoped  the issue  would  be  addressed  through  an                                                               
amendment process or some other means.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Oil, Gas, and Mining                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           During  FY2008 the  Department  of Natural  Resources                                                                
           (DNR) requested  that  Law  allocate $3.0  million  of                                                               
           Law's   $21.5   million    Oil,   Gas,   and    Mining                                                               
           supplemental  (Sec  1, Ch  6, SLA07,  Pg  1, Lns  4-6)                                                               
           to pay  a contractor  to do  a financial  analysis  of                                                               
           the  TransCanada   proposal   to  evaluate  that   the                                                               
           state's  financial   interests  are  being   met.  Law                                                               
           has   entered    into    a   Reimbursable    Services                                                                
           Agreement  (RSA)  with DNR  to pay  the  costs of  the                                                               
           valuation  expert.  The $3.0  million RSA  to DNR  was                                                               
           not included  in  the  costs Law  anticipated  at  the                                                               
           time   of  the   $21.5   million   request.   Law   is                                                               
           requesting  that  part  of  these  funds  be replaced                                                                
           for  their  original   purpose.   Law  is  requesting                                                                
           only  $1,750,000   (and  not  the  full  $3  million)                                                                
           because  one  large  case  recently  settled  and  Law                                                               
           spent  $1,250,000  less than  originally  anticipated                                                                
           on that case.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG TILLERY, DEPUTY ATTORNEY  GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF LAW (LAW),                                                               
reminded  the committee  that the  previous year  the department                                                                
received  a combination  of supplemental  and  FY 08 funding  for                                                               
the  Division  of Oil  and  Gas for  the  natural  gasline.  They                                                               
recently  become   aware  of  an  unfunded  need   to  provide  a                                                               
financial  analysis  of  the gasline  proposal.  Because  of  the                                                               
timing,   LAW  requested   a  reimbursable   services  agreement                                                                
(RSA)  for $3.0  million  to DNR  to conduct  the  analysis.  The                                                               
Department  of  Law will  need to  recover  the money  for  other                                                               
cases  and is requesting  that part  of these  funds be replaced                                                                
for their  original  purpose. Only  $1.75 million  (not the  full                                                               
$3  million)   is  being   requested  because   one  large   case                                                               
recently   settled   and   LAW   spent   less  than   originally                                                                
anticipated on that case.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(a). Deputy Attorney General's Office                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Judgments and Settlements, $587,910.81 as of                                                                         
           January 28, 2008.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Tillery  said the  items  were  more limited  than  in  past                                                               
years.  There are  four cases,  judgments  for  attorney's  fees.                                                               
He noted  they  are all reductions  from  the amount  requested;                                                                
in three  of the  four cases  the basis  for the  reduction  is a                                                               
result   of  legislation    regulating   judgments   for   public                                                               
interest litigant fees.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(b). Deputy Attorney General's Office                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           The amount necessary for additional judgments                                                                        
           awarded on or before June 30, 2008 is                                                                                
           appropriated.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Tillery  explained  that the  next item is  an appropriation                                                                
for  any  subsequent   judgments   and  claims  related   to  the                                                               
previous  item.  One of  the  judgments  could be  approximately                                                                
$800,000.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault asked about a $2 million claim.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Nelson   noted  the  $2   million  may   be  the                                                               
settlement for Office of Children's Services.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:03:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(c). Administrative Services: Unpaid FY06 bills                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           Contractor   was  very   late  in   submitting   final                                                               
           bills to  Law. Bills  were  submitted  in May/June  of                                                               
           2007  so   they  were   not  included   in  the   FY06                                                               
           supplemental  for  Law.  The  actual  amount  in  hand                                                               
           as of January 28, 2008 is $3,109.36.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(d). Criminal Division                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Additional   federal  authorization   is  needed   for                                                               
           the   U.S.   Department   of   Justice,    Office   of                                                               
           Violence  Against  Women grant  to "Encourage   Arrest                                                               
           Policies  and   Enforcement   of  Protection  Orders"                                                                
           for $937,000,  as  allocated  below.   The grant  term                                                               
           is  for  15 months,   so a  lapse  date  of  June  30,                                                               
           2009 is requested.                                                                                                   
           Second Judicial District - $127.8                                                                                    
           Third Judicial  District:  Anchorage  -  $399.2 and  1                                                               
           new PFT (Paralegal)                                                                                                  
           Fourth  Judicial  District  - $410.0  and  2 new  PFTs                                                               
           (Attorney and Paralegal)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD    SVOBODNY,   DEPUTY    ATTORNEY    GENERAL,   CRIMINAL                                                                
DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT  OF LAW, described  an  unpaid bill  from a                                                               
2006  murder   case.  The  bill  was   submitted  by  an   expert                                                               
witness   late   and  therefore    was  not   included   in   the                                                               
appropriate    billing   cycle.   The   next   item   authorizes                                                                
$937,000,  part of  a federal grant  for violence  against  women                                                               
to assure  arrests  and provide  for  enforcement  of protective                                                                
orders.  The  amount  funds  a half-time   paralegal  in Barrow,                                                                
and  a  full-time   attorney   and  paralegal   in  Bethel.   The                                                               
appropriation   would  also  fund  a  paralegal   for  the  rural                                                               
prosecution  unit  providing  services  to  communities  off  the                                                               
road  system,  and  one attorney  in  the  appellate  section  to                                                               
deal  specifically   with  violence   against  women  issues.   A                                                               
small  portion of funds  would support  two attorneys  currently                                                                
working in the Anchorage District Attorney's office.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  asked  if the presence  of  Village  Public                                                               
Safety  Officers  (VPSOs)   in areas  with  no  law  enforcement                                                                
could  save  money.  Mr.  Svobodny  hoped  increasing  personnel                                                                
would  have   some  deterring   effect  but  said  there   is  no                                                               
empirical data to support that.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  pointed   out  that  appropriations   in                                                               
several  items relate  to FY 09  and questioned  the breaking  up                                                               
of fiscal years in the operating and supplemental budgets.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  responded that  the issue  would be taken  up                                                               
in committee.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section  25(e).  Human  Services  and Child  Protection:  Native                                                                
     Village of Curyung v. State DHSS, Office of Children                                                                       
     Services                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           This  is a  complicated  case  involving  four tribes                                                                
           suing   the   state   over  alleged   violations    of                                                               
           various  state and  federal  laws. The  Department  of                                                               
           Law estimates  that  there  are roughly  120 children                                                                
           who are  part of  this case.  It is  anticipated  that                                                               
           litigation  and/or  trial  costs  are expected  to  be                                                               
           at  least   $200.0  in   FY08  with   another   $300.0                                                               
           needed  in FY09,  so an extended  lapse  date through                                                                
           June 30, 2009 is requested.                                                                                          
                                                        $500,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Tilley  explained  that  the  request  addresses  a complex                                                                
case  relating  to a  challenge  by four  native  villages  filed                                                               
in Dillingham  regarding  Child  Protective  Services.  The  case                                                               
challenges   state  and  federal  laws  and  requests   that  the                                                               
court  appoint  an  ombudsman  to  oversee  protective  services                                                                
for  the state.  The  case  involves  120 children  and  is  fact                                                               
intensive.  The  department  anticipates  the case  to last  over                                                               
two  fiscal  years  and decided  to  put  it in  one  request  to                                                               
clarify the ultimate cost.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  queried  the status  of the  law regarding                                                                
LAW  liability.  Mr. Tillery  said  he did  not know  the  answer                                                               
but would find out and report back.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Nelson  asked   when  the  increment   would  be                                                               
available   for  the   settlement   from  the   1998  Office   of                                                               
Children's   Services   (OCS)   case.   Mr.   Tilley   said   the                                                               
settlement   is  being   paid  out  of  the   Division  of   Risk                                                               
Management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 8 - 9. Student and School Achievement                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Correction  of  late  session  transactions   for  TRS                                                               
           solution  that erroneously   cut the  component  twice                                                               
           for the  GF  reduction  desired.   This  is reflected                                                                
           in section 8, the departmental fund source list.                                                                     
                                                     $388,000 GF                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 8 - 9. Head Start Grants                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Correction  of  late  session  transactions   for  TRS                                                               
           solution  that erroneously   cut component  twice  for                                                               
           the GF reduction desired. This is reflected in                                                                       
           section 8, the departmental fund source list.                                                                        
                                                           $6,000                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section 8 - 9. Mt. Edgecumbe High School                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           Correction  of  late  session  transactions   for  TRS                                                               
           solution  that erroneously   cut component  twice  for                                                               
           the  GF  reduction  desired.  This   is reflected   in                                                               
           section 8, the departmental fund source list.                                                                        
                                                        $331,200                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARK LEWIS,  DIRECTOR,  ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                               
EDUCATION   AND  EARLY   DEVELOPMENT   (DEED),   explained   that                                                               
during  the 2007 legislative  session  a series  of transactions                                                                
were  recorded  to  adjust  funding  related   to the  teacher's                                                                
retirement  system  with  the Student  and  School  Achievement,                                                                
Head  Start, and  Mt. Edgecumbe  High  School components.   These                                                               
transactions  inadvertently  removed  GF from  the base numbers.                                                                
The three  supplemental  items  correct  those  transactions  and                                                               
the associated funding sources.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Nelson   asked   what  other   early  education                                                                
programs are run through DEED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lewis  responded   that  most  early  development  programs                                                                
moved  to the Department  of Health  and Social  Services  (DHSS)                                                               
in  2004. Head  Start  and  early  learning  programs  remain  in                                                               
DEED.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:13:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Nelson   asked    what   percentage    of   the                                                               
department's  budget  was allotted  for  early  development.  Mr.                                                               
Lewis replied less than one percent.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Nelson  asked  if  there  was  any  interest  in                                                               
amending  the supplemental   request to  include  funds for  Head                                                               
Start. She noted increased energy costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Karen  Rehfeld remarked  that  there was  no amendment  for  Head                                                               
Start.   The   Administration   has   been   focusing   on   K-12                                                               
education.  She added  that the  Best Beginnings  report was  due                                                               
out  and hoped  recommendations   could be  made  for additional                                                                
funding as a result of that.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  noted that  there has  been much  discussion  in                                                               
the  education  subcommittee   about  early  learning.  He  noted                                                               
that  the  Head  Start  program  is  not  a state  program;   the                                                               
state  just provides  matching   funds for  local  community  and                                                               
federal  funding.  He further  noted  difficulty  overseeing  the                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lewis confirmed Co-Chair Meyer's assessment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:16:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   noted   the   provision   was  in   the                                                               
supplemental   with  continued  effects   in  the  FY  09  budget                                                               
cycle.  He asked  if there  were  similar  increments  in the  FY                                                               
09   operating   budget.   Ms.   Rehfeld    answered   that   the                                                               
corrections have been made in the operating budget request.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  stated  for  the  record   that  the  Best                                                               
Beginnings   program  already  has  a  recommendation   for  Head                                                               
Start  funding. He  asked the administration   to take a look  at                                                               
that.  Ms. Rehfeld  said she  was not  aware of  a dollar  amount                                                               
for  recommendations.    Several   components   of  a  statewide                                                                
system are being discussed, including Head Start.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  stated  that Head  Start serves  less  than                                                               
half  the children  eligible.  The  recommendation   is to  serve                                                               
all eligible children.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 22. School Performance Incentive Program                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           If the  amount necessary  to  pay school  performance                                                                
           incentives   exceeds  the  amount   appropriated   for                                                               
           FY08,    the   additional    amount    necessary    is                                                               
           appropriated.  The  department  won't know  the  final                                                               
           amount  until after  the legislature   has adjourned.                                                                
           Similar   language    is   included   in    the   FY09                                                               
           operating budget.                                                                                                    
                                                    $1.6 million                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lewis  explained  that  the  School  Performance  Incentive                                                                
Program  was  established  under  AS 14.031.26  as  a three-year                                                                
pilot  program.  The program  is  currently  in its  second  year                                                               
with  a budget  of  $2.5  million.  The  FY 08  request  of  $5.8                                                               
million  was  reduced  the  previous  session   by $3.3  million                                                                
because  as  a new  program  the  actual  costs associated   with                                                               
the   School  Performance    Incentive   Awards   could  not   be                                                               
accurately   projected.    Finance   subcommittees   recommended                                                                
reviewing   the  request   in  the  FY  09   budget  cycle.   The                                                               
language  section  provides  the  mechanism  to  fund  the  pilot                                                               
program  in order to  distribute  the awards  as intended  within                                                               
the  established  statutory  limits.  The  estimated  additional                                                                
funding required is projected to be $1.6 million.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:18:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer expressed  concern  about the  open-ended  nature                                                               
of the  request. He  pointed out  that some people  consider  the                                                               
item controversial   and asked if  the amount  could be limited.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lewis  explained   that  by  statute   only  850  certified                                                                
teaching   staff  can  receive   the  award,  which  limits   the                                                               
appropriation.  In  order to limit  it further  by short-funding                                                                
the program,  he recommended  paying  down the  full amounts  but                                                               
providing  the  award to  fewer  teacher  and fewer  schools.  He                                                               
also  pointed out  that  there was  no way  to know  exactly  how                                                               
much the program would cost.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked if  the request  is short-funded,   why                                                               
not pro-rate  to each  teacher eligible.  Mr.  Lewis stated  that                                                               
the  intention   is  provide  a  higher   amount  to  adequately                                                                
compensate  those  awarded.   The higher  amount  also  provides                                                                
incentive   to  perform  at  a  higher   level,  which   in  turn                                                               
nurtures student achievement.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Hawker  echoed   Co-Chair   Meyer's   comments                                                                
regarding  open-ended  appropriations.  He felt  there should  be                                                               
some limitations to the appropriation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  asked  about  the  former  commissioner's                                                                
statement  regarding   the  teacher  incentive  grants  statute.                                                                
The  funding provided  did  not  allow all  of the  teachers  who                                                               
qualify  under the  standards  to receive  bonuses.  He asked  if                                                               
a  certain  percentage  would  qualify  and  what  percentage  of                                                               
schools  would  qualify  for  making  progress  under  the  grant                                                               
program for which funding was provided.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lewis  did not  have precise  numbers but  offered to  supply                                                               
the  information.  He  added  that if  there  were  no statutory                                                                
limitation,   the program   for  850 teachers   would  cost  $6.2                                                               
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  commented   that  if  the  administration                                                                
believed   the  program  is  effective   and  the  point   is  to                                                               
encourage  teachers  through a grant  to do better,  the program                                                                
would be undermined by not providing the funds.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 23. Carry Forward Receipts                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Carry   forward   of  federal   indirect   cost   plan                                                               
           receipts   to  include   the   FY07   unexpended   and                                                               
           unobligated  balance.  Similar  language  is included                                                                
           in the FY09 budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TOM LAWSON,  DIRECTOR,  ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                               
FISH AND  GAME (ADF&G),  explained  the language  in the section                                                                
corrects  a cash  flow issue  by allowing  for  unspent indirect                                                                
revenue  to  be  carried  forward   into  the next  fiscal   year                                                               
without  an  increase   in authorization.   The  language   would                                                               
help  spread   indirect  revenue   more  evenly  throughout   the                                                               
fiscal  year. He  commented  that indirect  funds  cover general                                                                
administrative  overhead  costs.  A certain  percentage  of  each                                                               
federal  grant  can  be  charged  with  these  costs.  An  annual                                                               
federal  indirect  plan has  to be completed.  During  the  field                                                               
season,  late in  the fiscal  year, ADF&G  spends  large amounts                                                                
of federal  funds.  Because  the indirect  rate is  based on  the                                                               
actual  expenditure   of the  funds,  the  department   does  not                                                               
know how  much federal  funding  will be received.  The language                                                                
allows the unexpended balance to be rolled forward.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  asked  if something   had  changed  from                                                               
last  year  to bring  forth  the  request.  Mr. Lawson  answered                                                                
that  it has been  an issue  in the  past. They  discovered  that                                                               
the  Department  of  Labor had  similar  issues  and  solved  the                                                               
problem through a language change.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker asked  if  similar  language  was in  the                                                               
current  year's operating  budget.  Mr. Lawson  responded  in the                                                               
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIVISION OF ELECTIONS                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section 16. Personnel Services                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           This  request  includes   $278.2  GF  and  $120.1   in                                                               
           HAVA  CIP  Rcpts  for  personal  services   for  three                                                               
           new  base  operating   positions   and  26  temporary                                                                
           positions    needed    for    petitions    processing                                                                
           relating  to   the  FY09  primary   election  ballot.                                                                
           Contractual  includes  $76.4  in printing,  forms  and                                                               
           training  costs relating  to  the upcoming  statewide                                                                
           primary   election;    $10.9   one-time    costs   for                                                               
           Deltana    incorporation,     $12.0    for   Wrangell                                                                
           incorporation,   and   $6.0   for  REAA   #18   recall                                                               
           elections;  $20.0  for  legal costs  relating  to  the                                                               
           Nick  case; and  increased  base  operating  costs  of                                                               
           $7.0   for  postage,   $23.5   for  maintenance    and                                                               
           licensing   increases,  and   $30.1  for  office   and                                                               
           storage  space   increased   lease  costs.  The   base                                                               
           operating   increases   in   personal   services   and                                                               
           contractual   are  included  in  the  FY09  operating                                                                
           budget request.                                                                                                      
                                                        $584,200                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GAIL  FENUMIAI,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF ELECTIONS,   OFFICE  OF                                                               
THE  LIEUTENANT  GOVERNOR,  detailed  the  request  of $584,200,                                                                
consisting   of  $464,100   in   GF  and  $120,100   in  capital                                                                
improvement   project  (CIP)  receipts  from  the  Help  America                                                                
Vote  Act (HAVA).  The  division  is requesting  three  new  base                                                               
operating  positions  to assist  with  the increased  work  load,                                                               
especially   to  help  in  FY  08  to  prepare   for  the  FY  09                                                               
elections.  The  funding  will  also  assist  with  26 temporary                                                                
positions    used    to   process    petitions    to   determine                                                                
certification  for  the FY 09 elections.  She  listed other  one-                                                               
time items that were unexpected expenses.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  for  an explanation   of the  Nick  v.                                                               
Bethel  case.  Ms.  Fenumiai  responded   that  the  division  is                                                               
being   sued  by  four   native   Alaska  elders   claiming   the                                                               
language  assistance  program was  not effectively  implemented.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Nelson  clarified  that the issue  was under  the                                                               
Voting  Rights  Act.  Co-Chair   Chenault  asked  when  the  case                                                               
began. Ms. Fenumia said the lawsuit was filed June of 2007.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  asked  if the  positions   were ongoing                                                                
costs  or just  for the election  cycle.  Ms. Fenumia  responded                                                                
that  the  division  intended  to  keep positions   ongoing.  She                                                               
described  an increased  work load  due to federal  mandates  and                                                               
changes in the state's voting system.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:29:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 24.  Commissioner's Office                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           The $850.0  fiscal  note  for ch.  22, SLA  2007 (  HB
           177,  AGIA)  was  appropriated  in  sec.  2,  ch.  28,                                                               
           SLA  2007, page  44,  line  22.  The department   will                                                               
           not  spend  the  entire  amount  in  FY08,  therefore                                                                
           they  request   that  the  lapse   date  be  extended                                                                
           through  June  30,  2009  in  order  to complete   the                                                               
           work with the estimated balance of $250.0.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
GUY  BELL, ASSISTANT   COMMISSIONER  AND  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF                                                               
ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF  LABOR  AND WORKFORCE                                                                
DEVELOPMENT   (LABOR),   explained  the   request  to  extend   a                                                               
fiscal  note appropriation   for the  Alaska Gasline  Inducement                                                                
Act  (AGIA) training  program  development   into next  year.  He                                                               
recounted  the AGIA  mandate to  develop a training  program  for                                                               
the workforce  needs.  The department  received  $850,000  toward                                                               
the effort,  which  will continue  into the next  fiscal year.  A                                                               
steering   committee   made   up  of   largely   private   sector                                                               
individuals  has  been engaged;  the  committee is  giving  LABOR                                                               
guidance  and will  be meeting  into the  next fiscal  year.  The                                                               
estimated  balance  available  at  the  end of  the  fiscal  year                                                               
will be  approximately  $250,000.  The department  is requesting                                                                
authorization   to  spend  the funds  through   the  next  fiscal                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Oil & Gas Auditors                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           Cost  to  implement   ch.1,   SSSLA  2007  (HB   2001)                                                               
           Alaska's    Clear   and   Equitable    Share    (ACES)                                                               
           legislation.   Add  two  Oil   &  Gas  Revenue   Audit                                                               
           Master  exempt  positions.   The  amount  is  reduced                                                                
           from  the original   fiscal  note due  to  later  than                                                               
           anticipated   hiring  of  the   positions.  The   FY09                                                               
           budget contains a related increase of $303.5.                                                                        
                                                        $110,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LETA   SIMONS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   SUPPORT   SERVICES,                                                                
DEPARTMENT  OF  NATURAL  RESOURCES,   addressed  the  request  to                                                               
fund two senior level auditors as per the ACES fiscal note.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:31:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  7 - 9. Fire   Suppression    Preparedness    Resolution                                                                
     over Implementation of the Forest Technician Class                                                                         
     Study                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           This   supplemental   request   funds   a  Letter   of                                                               
           Grievance  Resolution   between  the  State   and  the                                                               
           Alaska  State Employees  Association   (ASEA) related                                                                
           to    step    placement     of    employees     during                                                               
           implementation   of   a  classification    study   for                                                               
           Forestry-specific   job   classes.   The  retroactive                                                                
           operating  costs  for  20  Wildland  Fire  Dispatcher                                                                
           positions   is  $47.5  for  FY07,   and  current-year                                                                
           FY08   costs    are   $61.7,    resulting   in    this                                                               
           supplemental   request  of  $109.2.  A  corresponding                                                                
           FY09 budget amendment of $61.7 will be requested.                                                                    
                                                        $109,200                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons explained   the supplemental   covers the  costs  for                                                               
FY 08 and retroactive to FY 07.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  noted that the  corresponding  changes  would                                                               
be in the FY 09 budget.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section  10 - 12.     Capital    Eagle   River   Nature    Center                                                               
     Planning and Design Study                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  outlined  the  capital   request  is  for  a  design                                                               
study  for  Eagle   River  Nature  Center.   This  is  statutory                                                                
designated   program  receipts.   Friends  of  the  Eagle   River                                                               
Nature  Center received  a Housing  and Urban  Development  grant                                                               
to fund  the  projects.  The funds  are  being requested  in  the                                                               
supplemental  budget  due  to  the  grant  timeline.  The  design                                                               
phase must begin as soon as possible.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   asked   about   the  anticipated   funding                                                                
sources  for  the   center.  Ms.  Simons  noted  that   once  the                                                               
design  work  is  done,   the  Friends  of  Eagle  River   Nature                                                               
Center  will be  seeking  the construction   funds  for on  their                                                               
own.  The  organization   is  seeking   the  assistance   of  the                                                               
Division  of  Parks  and  Outdoor  Recreation   only  for  design                                                               
work because the division has design expertise.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(a). Ratification Fire Suppression Activity                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           Ratification    AR    37313-07    Fire    Suppression                                                                
           Activity.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Simons   detailed   the   ratification   of   expenditures                                                                
totaling $7,550,162 for FY 07 fire activity.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SPENCER, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                
DEPARTMENT   OF  PUBLIC   SAFETY   (DPS),  provided   a  general                                                                
overview  regarding  DPS appropriations.  A number  of items  are                                                               
broken  out by component,  but many  are for  similar costs  such                                                               
as fuel  and utility  costs, and  operating or  replacement  cost                                                               
increases.  In addition,  the spreadsheet  refers  to the  amount                                                               
of a similar  increase  included  in the FY 09  budget proposal.                                                                
Some   needs  are   expected  to   be  on-going.   Finally,   the                                                               
projections   are   based   on   actual   expenditures   through                                                                
              st                                                                                                                
December   31.    The   department    is   currently   reviewing                                                                
expenditures  through  January to  see if there  are any changes                                                                
that  can be  made to  the supplemental   requests.  He expected                                                                
any change to be a decrease.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Spencer   acknowledged    past   increases   for   trooper                                                                
positions.   However,   DPS  has  had  difficulty   filling   the                                                               
positions.   Appropriating   additional   funds  for  recruiting                                                                
resulted  in  less  supplemental  requests   for several   years.                                                               
Some  of the  funds for  positions  were  used to  address  other                                                               
cost increases.  Vacancy  savings  can no longer  be used  as the                                                               
department   now  expects  the  positions  to  be  filled.   Most                                                               
items  requested  in the supplemental   are the  result of  that.                                                               
He noted that the first item is an exception.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:37:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Fire Prevention Operations                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           RSS  shortfall   from  building   plan  review   fees.                                                               
           Division  would  like to  make  this into  a straight                                                                
           GF  operation   since   revenues   vary  drastically.                                                                
           Included  in the  FY09  budget at  the same  level  of                                                               
           $220.0.  Additional   travel  of $50.0  for  building                                                                
           life    safety    inspections     and    to   provide                                                                
           inspections  in rural  locations.  Funded  in FY09  at                                                               
           $105.0.  Increased   fuel/utility  $8.3  and  vehicle                                                                
           $4.8  costs.  FY09  fuel/utility   cost increment   is                                                               
           $4.5.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  pointed   out  that  there  were  increased   fuel,                                                               
utility,  and vehicle  costs  in the item.  There  are two  other                                                               
items,   however.   One   is  a   receipt   supported   services                                                                
shortfall  from  building  plan  review fees  that  the Division                                                                
of Fire  Prevention  use for reviewing  building  plans for  fire                                                               
code compliance.  Over  time those  receipts  have supported  the                                                               
individual  positions  working  on  the  building  plan reviews,                                                                
as  well as  support  costs.  If  the department   projects  that                                                               
the  receipts  from building  plan  reviews  go down,  it is  not                                                               
practical  to release  a plan  reviewer  because  it takes  about                                                               
16 months  to train  the  position. The  appropriation  is  based                                                               
on  a projection   of revenue  that  does  not  track  well  from                                                               
year  to year.  There  is  a companion  adjustment  in  the  FY09                                                               
operating  budget.  Mr. Spencer  did not expect  the revenues  to                                                               
increase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara asked  if  the unfilled  trooper  position                                                                
funds   were   used  to   pay   for  other   needs   within   the                                                               
department.   Mr.   Spencer   explained   that  each   year   the                                                               
department  has  attempted to  fill the  positions.  Rather  than                                                               
come  to  the  legislature  for  a  supplemental  for  increased                                                                
fuel  or lease  costs, funds  for unfilled  positions  were  used                                                               
for other costs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  thought  using funds  for  other costs  was                                                               
a  disincentive   to   filling   open  positions.   Mr.  Spencer                                                                
pointed  out  that  using  the funds  in  this  manner  had  been                                                               
discussed  during   the sub-committee   process.  He  underlined                                                                
the  directive   from   the  legislature   that   if  funds   are                                                               
available  from other  sources they  should be  used rather  than                                                               
making  a supplemental  request.  He claimed  the department  had                                                               
been candid.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  clarified  that it  was not  his intention                                                                
to suggest  that the  department  mislead anyone.  He reiterated                                                                
his  concern  that  using  unfilled  position   funds  creates  a                                                               
reverse  incentive  for  filling  them. He  asked  if Department                                                                
of Health  and Social  Services  (DHSS) does  that with unfilled                                                                
social worker funding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  could not  specifically  speak  to  the particular                                                                
component  within   DHSS.  She suggested   looking  at  what  the                                                               
department   has   budgeted   for  vacancy   and   other   costs.                                                               
Representative   Gara responded   that  he was  advised  by  DHSS                                                               
that  there were  19 or  20 funded  but  unfilled  positions.  He                                                               
wanted  assurance  that  those  funds  were not  used  for  other                                                               
things.  Ms. Rehfeld  replied that  DHSS was  attempting to  fill                                                               
those  positions. Mr.  Spencer added  that it  was the intent  of                                                               
DPS  to  fill  the  vacant  positions   and  come  back  if  that                                                               
causes  a budget shortfall.  He  emphasized that  the department                                                                
did not want to create a disincentive.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Stoltz    agreed   that   there   should   be   more                                                               
restrictions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:43:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Fire Service Training                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   fuel/utility   $8.3   and   vehicle   $9.4                                                               
           costs. FY09 fuel/utility cost increment is $9.6.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  said the  item was  a utility and  vehicle increase                                                                
cost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Alaska State Troopers/Special Projects                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           Replace  federal  Rural   Alcohol  Interdiction   Team                                                               
           funds  for part  year.  Fund  change  is  included  in                                                               
           FY09 in the amount of $870.0.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer reported  that  the  item is  to replace  funds  for                                                               
part  of the  fiscal  year  in the  amount  $150,000.  There  are                                                               
five  or six  positions  that work  on the  program;  funding  is                                                               
running  out.  The  last appropriation   passed  by  Congress  in                                                               
December  has Rural  Alcohol  Interdiction  Funds,  but DPS  does                                                               
not  know  if   those  funds  are  coming   to  Alaska.  Senator                                                                
Stevens  attempted  to get federal  funds. If  those funds  come,                                                               
the request would not be needed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Judicial Services - Anchorage                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           Assume   Anchorage    prisoner    transport   duties.                                                                
           Assumes   December  2007   hire  date   for  six   new                                                               
           positions.  Covers  one-time  purchases  and share  of                                                               
           annual  expenses.  If one-time  costs  are not  funded                                                               
           here, additional   funds will  be needed  in FY09.  In                                                               
           the  FY09  budget   at  $656.3   for  a  full  year's                                                                
           costs, but that does not include one-time costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained  that the  appropriation  would implement                                                                
the  Anchorage  prisoner  transport  settlement  agreement.   The                                                               
state  of  Alaska  and  the municipality   of  Anchorage  had  an                                                               
agreement   regarding  prisoner   transport.   The  municipality                                                                
sued  the  state.  An  agreement  was  reached  over  the  summer                                                               
that  DPS would  take over  the transport.  The  $620,000 in  the                                                               
supplemental  can  be reduced  to  $477,600  GF, based  on a  new                                                               
assumption  that the  department  will hire four  court services                                                                
officers  in March  and two  more around  the end  of the fiscal                                                                
year.  There  is significant   cost even  without  the  last  two                                                               
because of the required equipment needed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Chenault    requested     clarification    regarding                                                                
transport.    Mr.   Spencer   replied   the   Anchorage    Police                                                               
Department conducted transport.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Prisoner Transportation                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           Increased    prisoner    transports     costs.    FY09                                                               
           increment is in the same amount.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  said  the  item  for  $455,000  is  for  increased                                                                
prisoner   transport   costs.   Airline   and  fuel   costs   are                                                               
increasing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:47:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Rural Trooper Housing                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Rural  housing  costs  of  $244.2  due to  unrealized                                                                
           SDPR  including  leases   without  rent  contribution                                                                
           at Selawik  and  for Bethel  commons.  Increased  fuel                                                               
           and  utility   costs  of  $92.7.   FY09  fuel/utility                                                                
           cost increment is $147.1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  described  costs of  vacant trooper  positions.  The                                                               
department  maintains  housing  for troopers  in  rural areas  by                                                               
contract,   whether  or  not  the  positions   are  filled.   The                                                               
result is a revenue shortfall.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. AST Detachments                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   trooper   move  costs   $425.0,  dispatch                                                                
           contracts   with    Kodiak   and   Wasilla   (MatCom)                                                                
           $420.3,   lease  costs   $60.6,  fuel/utility    costs                                                               
           $236.2,   vehicle   costs   $610.9,   and  facilities                                                                
           maintenance   costs   $25.5.  FY09   increments   are:                                                               
           trooper    move   travel    $425.0;    lease    $60.6;                                                               
            fuel/utility $164.9; and vehicle $113.9.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained  the various  expenses  for moving  Alaska                                                               
State Troopers. Costs have increased.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  wondered   how  the  large  number   was                                                               
overlooked   in  the   previous   funding  cycle.   Mr.  Spencer                                                                
responded   that  the  number   did  not   get  overlooked.   The                                                               
department  absorbed  high costs  from having  vacant positions.                                                                
Now  that they  are  not  expecting  to have  vacant  positions,                                                                
the full costs are obvious.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  spoke  of  "truth  in  budgeting."   Mr.                                                               
Spencer  stated  that   they  were  truthful.  The  department's                                                                
approach  has been  to not  ask for money  until  it was needed.                                                                
He    maintained     that     documentation     was    complete.                                                                
Representative   Hawker  argued  that  the  amounts  should  have                                                               
been asked  for in  prior years.  Mr. Spencer  responded that  if                                                               
the positions  had  been filled,  DPS  would have  asked for  the                                                               
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Alaska Bureau of Investigation                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   lease   costs.   No  corresponding    FY09                                                               
           increment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Increased  fuel/utility   $70.8,  vehicle  $288.6  and                                                               
           facilities    maintenance     $17.1    costs.     FY09                                                               
           increments    are:   fuel/utility    $38.6;   vehicle                                                                
           $145.3.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Alaska       Wildlife      Troopers      Aircraft                                                                
     Enforcement                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   fuel/utility   $95.2   and   lease   $80.2                                                               
           costs.  FY09  increments   are:  fuel/utility   $151.1                                                               
           and lease $80.2.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Alaska Wildlife Troopers Marine Enforcement                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Increased  fuel/utility   costs.  FY09  increment   is                                                               
           $66.0.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Domestic Violence/ Sexual Assault                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           CDVSA  received   an  unanticipated   Rural  Domestic                                                                
           Violence  and Child  Victimization  (RDVCV)  grant  in                                                               
           October   2007.   The  majority   of   projects   from                                                               
           another  federal  grant   (GTEA)  fell  into  FY08  as                                                               
           well,   leading    to   a   shortfall    in   federal                                                                
           authority.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  reported  that the  Council  on Domestic  Violence                                                                
and  Sexual   Assault  received   a  grant  that  they   had  not                                                               
anticipated.  As  a result,  DPS  does not  have  enough federal                                                                
receipt  authority;   the  appropriation   would  allow  them  to                                                               
spend the money.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Training Academy                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   fuel/utility   $5.2  and   vehicle   $11.6                                                               
           costs.  FY09  increment  for  fuel/utility   costs  is                                                               
           $8.2.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Administrative Services                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   fuel/utility   $2.6,   lease   $9.2,   and                                                               
           vehicle  $2.2  costs.  FY09  increment   is  $9.2  for                                                               
           office lease costs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Alcoholic Beverage Control Board                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Increased vehicle costs. FY09 increment is $1.9.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Laboratory Services                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   fuel/utility   $15.5   and  vehicle   $8.9                                                               
           costs.  FY09   increments  are:   fuel/utility   $21.0                                                               
           and vehicle $4.3.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   queried  the   costs  for   operating   the                                                               
Anchorage  crime  lab.  Mr. Spencer  said  he  did not  have  the                                                               
numbers  but  could get  them  as they  were  a separate   budget                                                               
component.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(b)(8).     Ratification                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Public Safety   AR  46805-07  Alaska  Fire  Standards                                                                
           Council.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  concluded  with the  last item in  the ratification                                                                
section.   He   explained   that   the  money   was   spent   but                                                               
accidentally   posted  to  the   wrong  account.  There   was  no                                                               
shortfall.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Tax Division                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           Implementation  of  Tax  Division's  fiscal  note  for                                                               
           Chapter  1,  SSSLA   2007  (HB  2001),  which   passed                                                               
           during  the second  special  session  in  2007 absent                                                                
           an  appropriations    bill.   Beginning   in  January                                                                
           2008,  the  department  will  begin  incurring   costs                                                               
           to  immediately  implement   the new  production   tax                                                               
           structure.  These  costs include:  Personal  services                                                                
           - $275.8  for  the new  exempt class  of  oil and  gas                                                               
           revenue   auditors    and   an   additional   analyst                                                                
           programmer;    Supplies    -    $6.0    for   analyst                                                                
           programmer's  computer  and  software;  Contractual  -                                                               
           $506.6 for audit assistance.                                                                                         
                                                     $788,400 GF                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JERRY   BURNETT,    DIRECTOR,    DIVISION    OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,  detailed  the appropriation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked if any  of the audit  masters had  been                                                               
hired.  Mr.  Burnett   answered  that  they   had  not  yet  been                                                               
hired.  He thought  the  paperwork  for  the first  recruitments                                                                
was going  forward.  The amount  in the  supplemental  is for  an                                                               
average  of three months  salary  for the audit  masters and  six                                                               
months   salary   for   the  analyst   programmer.    The   audit                                                               
assistant contracts are filled.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Treasury                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Investment   management  services   for  the  Retiree                                                                
           Health  Insurance   Major  Medical  Fund.  Management                                                                
           costs   are   increasing    as   the   assets    under                                                               
           management   are  growing   (35.9%   in  FY2007   from                                                               
           $152.4 to $207.1 million).                                                                                           
                                                         $15,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if  management  took  a  cut whenever                                                                
the  fund  dropped.  Mr.  Burnett   answered  the  fees  go  down                                                               
when money is lost.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. AHFC                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           AHFC 4%   wage   increase    and   health   insurance                                                                
            increase of $28.78 from $851 to $879.78.                                                                            
                                                    $1.2 million                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. AHFC                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           Wage and health insurance increase fund source                                                                       
           switch to 100% Corp Rcpts.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett   explained   that   the  Alaska   Housing  Finance                                                                
Corporation  (AHFC)  adopts  the general  government  unit  (GGU)                                                               
negotiated  wage  increase.  The  item  is  retroactive  to  July                                                               
1,  2007.  The appropriation   is  spread  through  several  fund                                                               
sources.  The  federal  funds  of $417,000  are  accounted  as  a                                                               
reimbursement   and  then  in  the  corporate   receipts   rather                                                               
than  showing  in the  budget as  federal  funds. The  source  of                                                               
the funds is still federal dollars.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Permanent Fund Corporation                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           Custody Management Fees                                                                                              
                                                      $6 million                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett   reported  the  item   as  a  $6  million  custody                                                                
management   fee  increase   for   the  Alaska   Permanent   Fund                                                               
Corporation.   The  amount  is based  on  increased   fees  under                                                               
management  and  also on changes  in  investment  allocation  and                                                               
the types of managers AHFC has hired.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   asked   if   it  were   normal   that   the                                                               
Department   of  Revenue  through  AHFC  would  mirror   the  GGU                                                               
contract  negotiations.   Mr. Burnett  indicated  that  that  has                                                               
been their tradition for a number of years.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  referenced  Permanent  Fund  management                                                                
fees.  The fees are  based on returns  and market  growth,  among                                                               
other  things.   The  supplemental   request  is  based   on  the                                                               
assumption   of  median   to  strong   market   growth  for   the                                                               
remainder  of  2008. He  wondered  if recent  market  conditions                                                                
affected the department's determination.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:58:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett  thought   the  determination   was  made  when  the                                                               
Permanent  Fund  was ahead.  Any funds  not needed  are returned                                                                
to  the Permanent   Fund.  Representative  Hawker  asked  if  the                                                               
item  were  more   an  authority  than   an  appropriation.   Mr.                                                               
Burnett assented.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  wondered  how  pressing  the  situation                                                                
was.  Mr. Burnett  responded  that  he had  no information   that                                                               
it would not be necessary.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section  17(a). Debt:  Fund  Capitalization,   Oil  and  Gas  Tax                                                               
     Credit Fund                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Increased   oil  and   gas   tax  credits   from   $25                                                               
           million  that were  appropriated  in the  FY08  budget                                                               
           to  an  updated   estimated   maximum  need  of   $150                                                               
           million.  The new  oil  and gas  tax credit  fund  was                                                               
           established in ACES for these credits.                                                                               
                                                    $125 million                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett reported  that  the ACES  bill  set up  the oil  and                                                               
gas tax  credit fund.  The formula  in the legislation  suggests                                                                
that  it  would  be  funded  with  ten  percent  of  the current                                                                
year's  production  tax revenues.  Ten  percent  would amount  to                                                               
around  $300 million.  The  bill  also increased  the  amount  of                                                               
credit  the state  will  be paying  because  it removed  the  $25                                                               
million limit on tax credits for small firms.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section  17(b)  Debt:  Fund  Capitalization,   Oil  and  Gas  Tax                                                               
     Credit Fund                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Reappropriate  the  balance  of the  $25  million  tax                                                               
           credit  appropriation  to  the  new  Oil and  Gas  Tax                                                               
           Credit   Fund   that  was   created   by   ACES.   The                                                               
           Department   of   Revenue   expects   a   balance   of                                                               
           approximately $4.2 million.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  relayed  that the next  item is  related to the  one                                                               
before.  In  the  FY  08  budget,  DOR  had  a  $25  million  tax                                                               
credit  appropriation,  of which  approximately  $21 million  has                                                               
been  spent. The  $4 million  remaining  would  go  into the  tax                                                               
credit fund.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  asked  if the  tax  credit fund  was  money                                                               
to  reimburse  people for  tax  credits.  Mr. Burnett  specified                                                                
that  there  are transferable   and  refundable  tax  credits  in                                                               
the production  tax  statute. A  number of companies  with  small                                                               
production   currently  do  not   have  tax  liability   and  are                                                               
eligible  for  a direct  refund  against  the state's  liability                                                                
to them. The fund is for that.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Gara   clarified   that   the   fund   is   for                                                               
transferable   tax  credits.  He  asked  about  deductions.   Mr.                                                               
Burnett   responded  that   refundable   tax  credits  are   only                                                               
expenditures for budgetary purposes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  did not like  spending  money that was  not                                                               
received.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section  18(a). Debt:  Debt  Reimbursement,   Jail  Construction                                                                
     Reimbursement                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Reimbursement   to the  Municipality   of  Kodiak  for                                                               
           expansion  of  the  Kodiak  jail.  Kodiak  will  start                                                               
           construction   this   season,   but   can't  finalize                                                                
           contracts     without    secured     funding.     This                                                               
           reimbursement is per Ch. 160 (SB65), SLA 2004.                                                                       
                                                      $2 million                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett  remarked  that the  appropriation   was authorized                                                                
in SB 65 in 2004.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if the  item  was debt  reimbursement                                                                
or a  grant. Mr.  Burnett responded  that  SB 65  was written  as                                                               
a grant  that  was intended  to  be done  through  a certificate                                                                
of participation  (COP).  However,  the administrative  costs  on                                                               
a $2  million  COP would  be too  high, so  DOR would  prefer  to                                                               
do  a GF  grant  instead  of financing   the item  on  behalf  of                                                               
Kodiak.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section  18(b). Debt:  Debt  Reimbursement,   Jail  Construction                                                                
     Reimbursement                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Reimbursement  of  design  and  site selection   costs                                                               
           of  the Pt.  Mackenzie  Correctional   Center  to  the                                                               
            Matanuska-Susitna Borough through AHFC.                                                                             
                                                    $2.5 million                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  explained  that  when SB  65 was passed  the  Mat-Su                                                               
Borough  selected the  site and  was working  on a memorandum  of                                                               
agreement  with AHFC.  The  intent was  that the  money would  be                                                               
paid  from the  debt service  for  financing  the new  prison  at                                                               
Pt.  Mackenzie.  However,  so  much  time  has  passed  that  the                                                               
money  can no longer  be financed.  The debt  is still owed  from                                                               
the state through AHFC to the borough.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly asked  if  the  last two  items  would  be                                                               
capital  or operating  appropriations.  Mr. Burnett  believed  it                                                               
would  be a capital  appropriation  and add to  the value  of the                                                               
correctional facility.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 19.     AHFC                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Correct  the  bond  authorization   citation  in  sec.                                                               
           8(b)(2),  ch. 28,  SLA 2007,  page 65,  line 20,  from                                                               
           ch. 2,  SSSLA  2002, the  FY03 GO  Bond  bill, to  ch.                                                               
           1, SSSLA  2002,  the  FY03 capital  budget  bill.  The                                                               
           AHFC bonds  were  authorized  in sec. 1,  page 46,  of                                                               
           the capital budget bill.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett   described   the   item  as  a   simple  technical                                                                
correction.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 28(b). Debt: Debt Service, GO Bonds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           On  April  15,  2003  the  state  issued  the   series                                                               
           2003   A   (Education    and   Museum   and   regular                                                                
           transportation)     and    2003     B    (Accelerated                                                                
           Transportation)   general  obligation   bonds.   These                                                               
           bonds did  not incur  any  positive arbitrage  in  the                                                               
           first  three  years  of the  funds'  lives.  On  April                                                               
           15,  2006  (the  three-year  anniversary)   the  funds                                                               
           remaining  in  the project  accounts  became  subject                                                                
           to yield  reduction  payment  based on  the arbitrage                                                                
           yield  limit   plus  1/8  of   a  percent,  which   is                                                               
           3.96266299   in   this   case.  From   April   15   to                                                               
           November   30   there   have   been   earnings    that                                                               
           correlate    to    a    $1.5    million    liability.                                                                
           Extrapolating   this  amount  forward   to  the  five-                                                               
           year  computation  date   of April   15, 2008,   there                                                               
           might be  as much  as $4 million  in  yield reduction                                                                
           due within  60  days  of the  computation  date  (June                                                               
           14, 2008).  A supplemental   to appropriate  up to  $4                                                               
           million  in  earnings   of  the  2003  A  and  B  bond                                                               
           proceeds   to  be  paid  from   the  funds  based   on                                                               
           actual  liability  generation   is  necessary  to  pay                                                               
           the  yield  reduction  payment  that  is  expected  to                                                               
           be due in FY2008.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  explained  the  item as  a general  obligation  (GO)                                                               
debt  passed   in  2002.  Some   of  the  funds  have  not   been                                                               
expended.  On  the  positive  side,  the investment   earns  more                                                               
than the  cost of the  debt; on  the negative  side, the surplus                                                                
has  to be  paid  to the  Internal  Revenue  Service  (IRS).  The                                                               
actual amount will be calculated April 15, 2008.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked how  much remained.  Mr.  Burnett  said                                                               
he would get the figures.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:08:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  wondered  why  the state  sat  on such  a                                                               
large   balance.   Mr.  Burnett   replied   he   did  not   know.                                                               
Representative   Hawker asked  what  could  be learned  from  the                                                               
situation.  Mr.  Burnett said  the money  was earned  from  bonds                                                               
sold  for  a  specific   purpose.   He  said  the  question   was                                                               
related  to  separate   investment  funds;   it  depends  on  how                                                               
those  are managed  and the connection.  There  was a discussion                                                                
about  the  limits  and risks  of  arbitrage.  Mr.  Burnett  said                                                               
the  IRS  has  asked  for  payment  because  they  consider   the                                                               
funds taxable.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  asked  if  anything   unanticipated   had                                                               
occurred.  Mr.  Burnett responded   that it  was a  case of  bond                                                               
proceeds being invested and not spent.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:11:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA COURT SYSTEM                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 10 - 12.      Capital                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Build chambers for new Fairbanks Supreme Court                                                                       
           Justice and offices for staff.                                                                                       
                                                        $629,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  CHRISTENSEN,   DEPUTY  ADMINISTRATIVE   DIRECTOR,   ALASKA                                                               
COURT  SYSTEM,  described  the  appropriation  for  construction                                                                
on the  undeveloped  fifth  floor of  the Rabinowitz  Courthouse                                                                
in Fairbanks.   The item  was supposed  to  have the  fast  track                                                               
effective   date,  but   was  inadvertently   put  in  the   bill                                                               
without  it. He related  history  and described  the inefficient                                                                
working  situation  of  the  judge and  staff.  The  bidding  and                                                               
construction  process  to  finish  the space  will take  five  to                                                               
six  months;  Courts  hoped  to expedite  funding  by  not  going                                                               
through the regular capital budget process.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9.  Judicial Council                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Additional applicant evaluation costs due to                                                                         
           increased number of vacant judgeships. The FY09                                                                      
           budget has a corresponding increase of $64.5.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  COHEN,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  JUDICIAL  COUNCIL,                                                                
impressed  upon the  committee that  this was  the first time  in                                                               
25 years  the council  has asked  for supplemental  funding.  The                                                               
reason   is  a  high   number  of   judicial   vacancies,   eight                                                               
vacancies  through  the first seven  months of  the fiscal  year,                                                               
which  is  two  more than  their  budget  can  accommodate.   The                                                               
requested   amount  of  $63,600   will  enable  the  council   to                                                               
increase efficiencies by filling positions.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:14:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section  7 - 9. Statewide  Aviation:  Funding    for   Southeast                                                                
     Airport Leasing Officer                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           Funding of this existing position, located in                                                                        
           Juneau, will increase the direct contact with                                                                        
           airport  tenants   and  on-site   airport  management                                                                
           personnel  which  will  lead to  better  oversight  of                                                               
           airport   tenant    operations.    Duties   of    this                                                               
           position  include  negotiating   leases,  permits  and                                                               
           concession   agreements    that   generate   revenues                                                                
           sufficient to cover the costs of this position.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  SLAGLE, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                
DEPARTMENT  OF TRANSPORTATION  AND  PUBLIC FACILITIES  (DOT/PF),                                                                
stated   the  item   requests  $35,000   in   receipt  supported                                                                
services  authority  to  add a  position  for a leasing  officer                                                                
for  Southeast   region  to  deal  with  rural  airport  leasing                                                                
issues.  The  department   is behind  in  annual  rent  reviews,                                                                
requiring   land    use  agreements,    and   collecting    state                                                               
revenues.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:16:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked if the  position  would be  on-going.  Ms.                                                               
Slagle   answered   that  the  position   is   on-going  and   is                                                               
included in budget amendments for FY 09.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  pointed  out that  change  record  detail                                                               
does   not   show  associated    position   hires.   Ms.  Slagle                                                                
responded that DOT/PF added a position via revised program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section  7 - 9. Measurement   Standards  and Commercial  Vehicle                                                                
     Enforcement: Travel to remote sites for inspections.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           Alaskan  businesses  are more  frequently  requesting                                                                
           Weights   and  Measure   Inspectors   to  perform   an                                                               
           inspection  or re-inspection   outside  of the  normal                                                               
           inspection  cycle.  When  this  occurs,  the business                                                                
           requesting  the  inspection  agrees  to  pay  for  all                                                               
           costs  associated  with the  trip.  In the  past,  the                                                               
           overall  amount   of  trips   was  minimal,  but   the                                                               
           number  of trips  has been  steadily  increasing  over                                                               
           the past  several  years  as  companies  become  aware                                                               
           of this service.                                                                                                     
                                                         $30,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  said  the  inspection   program  monitors  weighing                                                                
and   measuring   devices.    When   DOT/PF   is  requested    by                                                               
distributors   to  certify  devices   in  rural  areas   and  the                                                               
procedure  is  out  of the  department's   regular  routine,  the                                                               
department   would   charge   for  the   travel.   She  provided                                                                
examples.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  noted  constituent   concern  that aircraft                                                                
parts  and certification   can  take a  long  time. He  asked  if                                                               
the  item would  address  that.  Ms. Slagle  responded  that  the                                                               
request  mostly address  scales  and weights  for retailers  such                                                               
as grocery  stores  and fuel  distributors.  She  offered to  get                                                               
more information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  7 - 9. State  Equipment  Fleet:  Credit  card  payments                                                                
     for increased cost of fuel.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           The   State    Equipment   Fleet    (SEF)   maintains                                                                
           contracts  which allow  a vehicle  credit  card to  be                                                               
           used  to purchase  fuel  and  necessary  consumables.                                                                
           These   charges  are   paid   directly   by  SEF   and                                                               
           subsequently,   SEF  bills  executive   branch   state                                                               
           agencies for reimbursement.                                                                                          
                                                        $326,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle   informed  the  committee   that  the  $326,000   in                                                               
highway   equipment   working    capital   funds   covered   fuel                                                               
increases.  The  SEF  has  a  contract  for  vehicle  fuel.  They                                                               
receive the money from the user agencies and pay for fuel.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section  7 - 9. Central  Region  Facilities:   Fuel  and Utility                                                                
     Increases.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Fuel  prices  continue  to be  higher  than  our  base                                                               
           funding   level   of  $1.84/gallon    and  additional                                                                
           funding  provided  through Sec  22, Ch  28, SLA  2007.                                                               
           Likewise,   utility   rates   (electricity,   natural                                                                
           gas,  water/sewer,  waste  disposal)  have  continued                                                                
           to   rise    and    require    additional    funding.                                                                
           Janitorial   Contract   Increases   $58.4  -  Central                                                                
           Region   Facilities   has  12  janitorial   contracts                                                                
           that  service   18  facilities   throughout   Central                                                                
           Region.  Numerous  contracts  expired and  were  rebid                                                               
           resulting in net price increases.                                                                                    
                                                        $315,800                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  described   fuel  price  increases  and  associated                                                                
utility  costs  in  Central  region,  as  well  as  increases  in                                                               
janitorial contracts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  asked  why there  was a  request through                                                                
the  supplemental  when  the governor's  Fuel  and  Utility  Fund                                                               
was set  up to  cover cost  increases.  He wondered  if the  Fund                                                               
had  failed. Ms.  Slagle  responded  that  there was  a separate                                                                
appropriation  provided   in the  FY 07  budget  to fill  in  the                                                               
gap  between  the  FY  05  level  of funding   and utility   cost                                                               
increases.  The  appropriation  was provided  in FY  08 as  well,                                                               
but  it was  provided  at  the  FY 07  level.  Fuel  and utility                                                                
costs are continuing to increase beyond what was provided.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:23:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  concurred   and  added  that increases   were                                                               
being considered to cover current costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  asked if  the separate  supplemental  was                                                               
because  the  $24  million  budgeted  in the  governor's   office                                                               
was inadequate   to cover  state-wide  fuel increases.  Co-Chair                                                                
Chenault assented.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  remarked  that  the  next  two  items  also address                                                                
fuel  and janitorial  increases,  in  Northern  and Southeastern                                                                
regions:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Northern Region Facilities        Fuel         and                                                               
Utility Increases                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           Fuel  prices  continue  to be  higher  than  our  base                                                               
           funding   level   of  $1.93/gallon    and  additional                                                                
           funding  provided  through Sec  22, Ch  28, SLA  2007.                                                               
           Likewise,   utility   rates   (electricity,   natural                                                                
           gas,  water/sewer,  waste  disposal)  have  continued                                                                
            to rise and require additional funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Southeast Region Facilities       Fuel Increases                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Fuel  prices  continue  to be  higher  than  our  base                                                               
           funding   level   of  $2.37/gallon    and  additional                                                                
           funding  provided  through Sec  22, Ch  28, SLA  2007.                                                               
           Janitorial  Contract  Increases  $35.1  -  The  Juneau                                                               
           7-Mile  Complex,   AMHS  Reservations   Building   and                                                               
           the  Ketchikan    Court  and   Office   Building   are                                                               
           currently  under  contract  for janitorial  services.                                                                
           In June  2006,  the  three  year  contracts  for  both                                                               
           7-Mile  Complex and  the AMHS  Reservations  Building                                                                
           were scheduled  to  expire.  In May  2006 Invitations                                                                
           to  Bid   were   advertised   for   new   three   year                                                               
           contracts.  The low  bid for  this combined  contract                                                                
           came  in  higher  than  the  total  of  the  previous                                                                
           contracts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked if  there would  be an  amendment  from                                                               
the governor  for  increased  fuel costs.  Ms.  Rehfeld answered                                                                
that the package was forthcoming.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:25:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle commented that the next three items were related                                                                     
to increased fuel costs, specific to highways and aviation:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Central Region Highways and Aviation         Fuel                                                                
     and Utility Increases                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Fuel  prices  continue  to be  higher  than  our  base                                                               
           funding   level   of  $1.84/gallon    and  additional                                                                
           funding  provided  through Sec  22, Ch  28, SLA  2007.                                                               
           Likewise,   utility   rates   (electricity,   natural                                                                
           gas,  water/sewer,  waste  disposal)  have  continued                                                                
            to rise and require additional funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Northern Region Highways and Aviation        Fuel                                                                
     and Utility Increases                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Fuel  prices  continue  to be  higher  than  our  base                                                               
           funding   level   of  $2.01/gallon    and  additional                                                                
           funding  provided  through Sec  22, Ch  28, SLA  2007.                                                               
           Likewise,   utility   rates   (electricity,   natural                                                                
           gas,  water/sewer,  waste  disposal)  have  continued                                                                
            to rise and require additional funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Southeast Region Highways and Aviation Fuel                                                                      
     and Utility Increases                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Fuel  prices  continue  to be  higher  than  our  base                                                               
           funding   level   of  $1.84/gallon    and  additional                                                                
           funding  provided  through Sec  22, Ch  28, SLA  2007.                                                               
           Likewise,   utility   rates   (electricity,   natural                                                                
           gas,  water/sewer,  waste  disposal)  have  continued                                                                
           to   rise    and    require    additional    funding.                                                                
           Skagway   Lease   Increase   $51.0   -   The  Skagway                                                                
           maintenance  station  sits  on  leased  property.  The                                                               
           lease is  required  in order  to retain  legal rights                                                                
           to  use  the  property.   Commodity   Increases:   The                                                               
           harsh  winter   of  2006-2007   in  Southeast   Alaska                                                               
           diminished  levels  of available  chemicals  and  sand                                                               
           used  on roads  and  airports  to  a very  low  level.                                                               
           This   necessitated     the   purchase    of    larger                                                               
           quantities  of  both  to  provide  for  the  upcoming                                                                
           2007-2008    winter   season.    Additionally,    snow                                                               
           plowing  blades were  used heavily  and  were in  need                                                               
           of replacement.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  added  that  the  item for  Southeast   region  also                                                               
includes  $51,000 for  a new lease  for the maintenance  station                                                                
in Skagway.  The department  is  looking at purchasing  the  land                                                               
in the future.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked  if  there had  been  a lease  cost  in                                                               
previous  years  for the  Skagway  station.  Ms.  Slagle replied                                                                
that  she understood  there  was not  a cost. Co-Chair  Chenault                                                                
asked for more information.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           IBU [InlandBoatman's Union of the Pacific]                                                                           
           arbitration settlement related to the grounding                                                                      
           of the M/V LeConte.                                                                                                  
                                                        $142,500                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  explained  that  when the  M/V LeConte  went aground                                                                
in  2004,  there   was  no  language   in  the  union  contracts                                                                
allowing   the   department   to  contract   out   for  services                                                                
without   using   Marine   Highway   employees.    Without   that                                                               
language,  the department  was  in violation  of  the contracts.                                                                
An  arbitrator   found  against   the  state  and  is  requiring                                                                
payment of $142,500 to the union.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           MMP [International Organization of Masters Mates                                                                     
           and Pilots] arbitration settlement related to the                                                                    
           grounding of the M/V LeConte.                                                                                        
                                                       $251, 400                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  stated  that the  item was  for the  MMP settlement.                                                                
Language  added  to the contracts  allowed  the  state to  expand                                                               
contracting.  A  contract  was  signed for  additional  services                                                                
to cover  the M/V  LeConte  service while  the vessel  was  being                                                               
worked    on.    Arbitration    determined    that    inadequate                                                                
notification  was  provided  to  the union  for the  contracting                                                                
services.   The  new  language  required   thirty  days  notice,                                                                
which  does not  apply  to emergency  response.   The department                                                                
is  still   working   to   understand   appropriate   timing   of                                                               
notifications.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Kelly   speculated   about   notification    in                                                               
relation  to emergencies.  Ms. Slagle  agreed  the language  does                                                               
not  take emergency  circumstances  into  account.  Negotiations                                                                
should correct that.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   spoke  about   using   the  supplemental                                                                
budget  to  keep  the  operating  budget  artificially   low.  He                                                               
noted  DOT/PF  items  that  were  the  result  of the  operating                                                                
budget  being based  on unrealistic   fuel price  estimates.  Ms.                                                               
Slagle  responded that  the finance  committees  wanted the  base                                                               
budget  to  remain  at FY  05  levels  for  fuel and  utilities,                                                                
based  on an assumption  that  costs would  go down.   She  noted                                                               
the   OMB   attempt   to   follow   that   through   a  separate                                                                
appropriation for the increase beyond the FY 05 level.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:33:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  interjected  that once  something  is in  the                                                               
base,  it  is difficult   to  take it  out.  No  one  could  have                                                               
guessed  that oil  prices would  be as  high as  they are.  There                                                               
was  no  intention   to   keep  the  operating   budget   low  or                                                               
shortchange   departments.   The   issue  was   trying  to   keep                                                               
increased fuel costs out of a base budget.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  wanted to  know whether  the navigator  of                                                               
the  M/V LeConte  was  retained  or removed.  He  questioned  the                                                               
payment   of   insurance   for   the  person   responsible    for                                                               
grounding the vessel.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:35:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   asked  when   the  current   contract   was                                                               
signed.  Ms. Slagle  thought it  was signed in  2005. The  vessel                                                               
went aground  in 2004.  Co-Chair  Chenault asked  if the current                                                                
contract   provided   for  emergency   situations.   Ms.   Slagle                                                               
responded  that  it did  not. The  old  contracts  were extended                                                                
and negotiations for the new ones are being negotiated.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault   surmised   that   if  another   vessel   is                                                               
grounded,  because  of  lack  of  proper  notice  there  will  be                                                               
another  expensive  arbitration.  Ms. Slagle  clarified that  the                                                               
payment does not go to the employees but to the union.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           The  Alaska Marine  Highway  System  (AMHS)  projects                                                                
           fuel  cost  increases   of  $1,880.0  due  to   higher                                                               
           than  expected   prices.    The  AMHS  FY08  business                                                                
           plan    reflects    a    fuel    budget    based    on                                                               
           $2.60/gallon.     AMHS     is    currently      paying                                                               
           $3.00/gallon   and  burning   10.2   million  gallons                                                                
           annually.  Another  4.7  million  gallons  are yet  to                                                               
           be purchased this year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  noted  that the  item  covers  fuel cost  increases                                                                
for the Alaska Marine Highway system.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section  10 - 12.     Capital    Ports and  Harbors:  Long  Range                                                               
     Transportation Plan                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  to prepare  a  statewide  ports  and harbors                                                                
           plan,  to  be   undertaken  cooperatively   with   the                                                               
           Corps  of  Engineers   and  the   Denali  Commission.                                                                
           Supplemental  funding  is  requested  as  the Request                                                                
           for Proposals   (RFP) to  develop  a long  range  port                                                               
           and harbor  transportation   plan  is expected  to  be                                                               
           advertised in May of 2008.                                                                                           
                                                        $500,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  described   the  capital  budget  request   to  work                                                               
closely   with   the  Corps   of   Engineers   and   the   Denali                                                               
Commission   to   develop   a  ports   and  harbors   long-range                                                                
transportation  plan.  The draft  2030 transportation  plan  made                                                               
it evident  that this  area is lacking.  The  Corps of Engineers                                                                
and the  Denali  Commission  are providing  matching  funds.  The                                                               
goal is the have an RFP around May.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  expressed   shock regarding   the lack  of  a                                                               
long-range  ports   and harbors   plan.  Ms.  Slagle  noted  that                                                               
DOT/PF  has worked  hard to  divest ports  and harbors.  It  is a                                                               
shift  to  focus  on what  the  department  should  be  doing  to                                                               
develop  ports and  harbors,  for economic  reasons  especially.                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  acknowledged  the attempt  to turn ports  and                                                               
harbors over to municipalities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:40:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(a). Traffic  Signal  Management:  Anchorage  Traffic                                                                
       Signal TORA (Transfer of Responsibility Agreement)                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           The  Department   reached   an  agreement   with   the                                                               
           Municipality  of  Anchorage   in 2005  for  continued                                                                
           maintenance  and  operation  of  the State's  traffic                                                                
           and  street   lights  in  downtown   Anchorage.   This                                                               
           agreement  allows   for  an  increase  based   on  the                                                               
           Consumer  Price Index  (CPI)  and additional  signals                                                                
           in future years.                                                                                                     
                                                      $97,000 GF                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  explained  that  the state  has had  a contract  with                                                               
the  municipality  of Anchorage  for  many  years but  the  state                                                               
has  not   been  providing   the  increased   costs  needed   for                                                               
electricity and additional lights.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(b). Capital:     Airport     Improvement     Program                                                                
     Appropriation                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           The     FY08     Airport      Improvement     Program                                                                
           appropriation   increases  by  $1,500.0   due  to  the                                                               
           allocation change below:                                                                                             
           Sec 1, Ch 30, SLA 2007, Pg 105, Ln 27                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  described  the item  as the appropriation  level  for                                                               
the  airport  improvement   program  line;  the  following   item                                                               
represents  the actual  allocation  for an increase  to complete                                                                
an environmental   analysis  for the  Unalaska airport.  This  is                                                               
federal    receipt     authority.     The    Federal    Aviation                                                                
Administration  is  managing the  project but  has to direct  the                                                               
money  through the  state. The project  is in  its second  phase.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section    15(c).   Capital:    Airport   Improvement    Program                                                                
     Allocation                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Amend  Unalaska:  Airport Environmental   Analysis  by                                                               
           $1,500.0 from $1,500.0 to $3,000.0                                                                                   
            Sec 1, Ch 30, SLA 2007, Pg 110, Lns 8-10                                                                            
           Updated  planning   information   is  needed   by  the                                                               
           Federal   Aviation  Administration    (FAA)  for   use                                                               
           during  the preparation  of  an Environmental   Impact                                                               
           Statement  (EIS)  for  improvements  to  the airport.                                                                
           The  FAA would  like  to  begin  work  on the  EIS  in                                                               
           March  to  take  full  advantage  of  the  2008  field                                                               
           season  for data  collection  and  analysis.  This  is                                                               
           the   second   phase   of   the   project    and   the                                                               
           contractor  is  already  on  board.  This  project  is                                                               
           ready to go forward now.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(d). Capital:    Surface    Transportation    Program                                                                
     Appropriation                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           The    FY08     Surface    Transportation     Program                                                                
           appropriation   increases  by  $5,000.0   due  to  the                                                               
           allocation change below:                                                                                             
           Sec 4, Ch 30, SLA 2007, Pg 110, Lns 15-16.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(e). Capital:    Surface    Transportation    Program                                                                
     Allocation                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Amend     Anchorage:      Old      Seward     Highway                                                                
           Reconstruction,    O'Malley   Road   to   Brandon   by                                                               
           $5,000.0     from      $11,500.0     to     $16,500.0                                                                
           Sec 4, Ch 30, SLA 2007, Pg 111, Lns 30-33                                                                            
           The   need  for   additional   funding   is   due   to                                                               
           adjustments  in the  engineer's  estimate  to reflect                                                                
           increased   costs  due   to  inflation.   Fast   track                                                               
           supplemental   funding  is  necessary   to  advertise                                                                
           and award  the construction   contract  in the  spring                                                               
           to allow for a full first season of construction.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle described   the paired  items  as the  appropriation                                                                
and  allocation   levels  for  reconstructing   the  Old   Seward                                                               
Highway.  $5 million  is needed  for  additional  adjustments  to                                                               
the  engineer's   estimate.  The  project   is  ready  to  go  to                                                               
construction   in  the  spring,  but  needs  authority   to  move                                                               
ahead.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked if the  roughly one-third  increase  in                                                               
the cost  of projects  will  be seen  in the future.  Ms. Slagle                                                                
noted   that   the   increase   is   consistently    being   seen                                                               
everywhere.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:43:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked how  matching federal  funds  appear                                                               
in the  budget. Ms.  Slagle explained  that the  match number  is                                                               
based  on the  total  amount received.  There  is  shifting  back                                                               
and  forth  between  projects,   but the  overall  match   amount                                                               
does not change.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  questioned   what  happens  to  matching                                                                
funds when a project costs more than expected.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(f). Capital:     Airport     Improvement     Program                                                                
     Appropriation                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           The     FY06     Airport      Improvement     Program                                                                
           appropriation   increases  by  $1,880.0   due  to  the                                                               
           allocation changes below:                                                                                            
           Sec 1, Ch 3, FSSLA 2005, Pg 69, Ln 11.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(g). Capital:     Airport     Improvement     Program                                                                
     Allocation                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Amend  Ekwok:  Snow  Removal  Equipment   Building  by                                                               
           $680.0 from $820.0 to $1,500.0                                                                                       
           Sec 1, Ch 3, FSSLA 2005, Pg 70, Lns 32-33                                                                            
           The  increased  construction  cost  is  primarily  due                                                               
           to cost  increases  in fuel  and building  materials.                                                                
           This project  will  be ready  to advertise  in April.                                                                
           The  Federal   Aviation   Administration   wants   the                                                               
           state  to   use  these   grant  funds   as  early   as                                                               
           possible  so that  the  benefits  from their  use  can                                                               
           be achieved as quickly as possible.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  covered  the appropriation  and allocation  requests                                                                
related  to the  airport improvement   program.  The second  item                                                               
is  a  request  for  an amendment   to  the Ekwok  snow  removal                                                                
equipment building, which needs replacement.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(h). Capital:     Airport     Improvement     Program                                                                
     Allocation                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Amend  Seldovia:  Snow   Removal  Equipment  Building                                                                
           Construction by $1,200.0 from $700.0 to $1,900.0                                                                     
           Sec 1, Ch 3, FSSLA 2005, Pg 73, Lns 16-18                                                                            
           The  increased  construction  cost  is  primarily  due                                                               
           to cost  increases  in fuel  and building  materials.                                                                
           This  project   will   be   ready  to   advertise   in                                                               
           February.   The   Federal   Aviation   Administration                                                                
           wants the  state  to use these  grant  funds as  early                                                               
           as possible   so that  the  benefits  from  their  use                                                               
            can be achieved as quickly as possible.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle   turned  to   the  next  item   covering  increased                                                                
construction   costs  for   a  new  snow   removal  building   in                                                               
Seldovia.  The  Federal Aviation  Administration   is pressuring                                                                
DOT/PF  to get the  projects  going as  soon as  possible to  see                                                               
results from federal funds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(i). Capital:    Surface    Transportation    Program                                                                
     Allocation                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           The    FY05     Surface    Transportation     Program                                                                
           appropriation   increases  by  $3,000.0   due  to  the                                                               
           allocation change below:                                                                                             
           Sec 1, Ch 159, SLA 2004, Pg 40, Lns 12-13                                                                            
           Amend  Haines:   Ferry   Terminal   to  Union   Street                                                               
           [THROUGH  TOWN  TO OLD  HAINES  HIGHWAY]  by $3,000.0                                                                
           from $13,000.0 to $16,000.0                                                                                          
           Sec 15(b)(5), Ch 6, SLA 2005, Pg 24, Lns 13-14                                                                       
           This project  is  ready to  bid and  construction  can                                                               
           occur  as  early  as  this   spring  if  supplemental                                                                
           authorization   is  provided.   This  timeframe   will                                                               
           allow  full advantage   of this  year's  construction                                                                
           season.    This    additional     authorization     is                                                               
           requested  to  fully  cover the  engineer's  estimate                                                                
           as  well  as inflationary   factors  occurring   after                                                               
           the  development  of  the  estimate.  In  addition,  a                                                               
           scope  change has  been  requested.  At the  start  of                                                               
           this  project  in  1996,  the  terminus  on  the  town                                                               
           side  was identified  as  "Mud  Bay Road".  This  term                                                               
           proved  to  be confusing   to community   members.  In                                                               
           response,  DOT&PF  has  determined   that  it  was  in                                                               
           the best  interest  to  define  the terminus  side  of                                                               
           town  as   "Union  Street".   This   terminus   avoids                                                               
           confusion  as  to  the limits  of  construction   work                                                               
           within the city center of Haines.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  defined  the  allocation   as  a combination   of  a                                                               
project  name  change  and  the  addition   of  $3 million.   She                                                               
described   community  confusion   regarding  the   road  that  a                                                               
title change would clear up.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  noted  that  the road  would  not  go as  far                                                               
and  yet  would  cost  an  additional  $3  million.   Ms.  Slagle                                                               
relayed that the increase was due to rising costs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked if  the representative  from  Haines                                                               
agreed   to  the  road   terminus.   Ms.  Slagle   believed   the                                                               
confusion  was in the  community  and not within  the department                                                                
and the name change would clarify it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(j). Capital:    Surface    Transportation    Program                                                                
     Appropriation                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           The    FY02     Surface    Transportation     Program                                                                
           appropriation   increases   by  $750.0   due  to   the                                                               
           allocation change below:                                                                                             
           Sec 1, Ch 61, SLA 2001, Pg 35, Ln 19.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(k). Capital:    Surface    Transportation    Program                                                                
     Allocation                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Amend  Ketchikan:  Tongass -  Third Avenue  Extension                                                                
           Completion by $750.0 from $10,000.0 to $10,750.0                                                                     
            Sec 1, Ch 61, SLA 2001, Pg 41, Lns 18-21                                                                            
           This project  adds  a new  route  for storm  water  to                                                               
           reach  tidewater,  and  is  necessary  to  respond  to                                                               
           neighborhood  problems  concerning  current  drainage                                                                
           patterns.   These   urgently   needed   changes   will                                                               
           prevent  damage   to  private  properties   from  high                                                               
           water  flows  on  the  downhill   side  of  the  Third                                                               
           Avenue  Bypass.   This  funding  is  needed   so  that                                                               
           construction  bids  can  be  solicited  early  in  the                                                               
           year,   before   heavier   rainfall   later   in   the                                                               
           season.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  said  that  the  first  item of  the  pair  was  the                                                               
appropriation   level  and  the  second  was  an  amendment   for                                                               
adding  $750,000  in  federal  receipts   for  extension  of  the                                                               
Tongass-Third   Avenue  in  Ketchikan.  Third   Avenue  has  been                                                               
completed  but there  are environmental  issues  that need  to be                                                               
resolved,   including  a  catch  basin  near   the  foot  of  the                                                               
retaining  wall  and connecting  the  basin to  Tongass Narrows.                                                                
There  are concerns  about  the  impact of  drainage  on private                                                                
residences.  She  emphasized  that  the work  needed  to be  done                                                               
as soon as possible.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section  15(l). Capital  Appropriation:    Susitna   Valley  High                                                               
     School Rural Beacon System                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Funds   are   requested   to   cover  the   emergency                                                                
           installation   of   a   temporary   school   crossing                                                                
           beacon  system  at the  Susitna  Valley  High School.                                                                
           Last   summer,   the   permanent    school   building                                                                
           sustained  catastrophic   fire damage  rendering   the                                                               
           school  facility  unusable.   Subsequently,  portable                                                                
           temporary  school  facilities   were  set  up  at  the                                                               
           local senior  center  to house  the students  for  the                                                               
           next   two  school    years,   while  the   permanent                                                                
           building    is    reconstructed.    This    temporary                                                                
           facility  is   directly  across   the  Parks  Highway                                                                
           from  the permanent   location,  causing  students  to                                                               
           cross the highway to get to and from classes.                                                                        
                                                        $180,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  detailed  the request  for  the Susitna  Valley  High                                                               
School  beacon  system.  The  high school  burned  down  and  the                                                               
students  are temporarily  housed  in  the senior  center,  which                                                               
necessitates    students   crossing   the   Parks   Highway.   An                                                               
emergency beacon system was set up for safety.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly   asked  when  reconstruction   would   be                                                               
done.  Ms. Slagle believed  construction  would  take two  years.                                                               
Ms.  Rehfeld  added that  the  item  was listed  for  funding  in                                                               
the capital budget for FY 09.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  commented   that the  costs  for  the  beacon                                                               
were capital costs and he did not expect operating costs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 26(a). Capital: Appropriation                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           Amend:  Emergency  and  Non-Routine  Repairs  (Sec  1,                                                               
           Ch 82,  SLA 2006,  Pg 85, Lns  17-18)  by $128.2  from                                                               
           $250.0  to $378.2  to cover  the  costs  of the  Kenai                                                               
           Peninsula   Flood  -  $48.2   and  the  Copper   River                                                               
           Highway - $80.0                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle pointed  out  that  DOT/PF did  not receive  capital                                                                
funds  in   the  current   FY  for  emergency   and  non-routine                                                                
repairs  and so was  requesting  the funds for  Sterling Highway                                                                
and  Ninilchik  repairs  because   of Kenai   flooding,  and  the                                                               
Copper River Highway.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 26(b). Capital: Scope Change                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Scope  Change  - Pilot  Station:  Airport  Relocation                                                                
           [RUNWAY  REHABILITATION]   in  Sec   1,  Ch  3,  FSSLA                                                               
           2005, Pg 73, Lns 11-12.                                                                                              
           A scope  change  is requested   as the  Pilot Station                                                                
           airport    rehabilitation      project    became     a                                                               
           relocation    project   in    the   Master   Planning                                                                
           process.   The master  plan  recommended  the airport                                                                
           be relocated   to a  nearby  ridge  which  is aligned                                                                
           favorably  with   the  wind,  situated  on  excellent                                                                
            material and does not have obstructions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  explained  the  next item  as a name  change request                                                                
on a previous  appropriation  for  Pilot Station.  Previously  it                                                               
was  identified  as  "Runway  Rehabilitation"   and it  has  been                                                               
determined  that it  is not feasible  to lengthen  the runway  at                                                               
its current  location.  The master  plan recommended  relocating                                                                
the airport.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:54:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  queried costs  to relocate  the airport.  Ms.                                                               
Slagle   expected   additional   authority  requests   for   more                                                               
funding  before  the  relocation.  The  request  allows  work  to                                                               
begin.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 26(c). Capital: Scope Change                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Scope Change  -  Stony River  Airport  Relocation  and                                                               
           Airport  Improvements  [REHABILITATION]   in Sec  100,                                                               
           Ch 2, FSSLA 1999, Pg 63, Lns 6-7.                                                                                    
           The  initial  rehabilitation   project  scope  was  to                                                               
           include  an  extension  of  the  runway.  The project                                                                
           has  been revised  to  relocate  the  airport  due  to                                                               
           the   village's   encroachment    at   the   existing                                                                
           facility  as well  as the  topographical  constraints                                                                
           caused  by the  airport's  current  location  between                                                                
           meanders of the Kuskokwim River.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  said the  request  changed  the  name of  the  Stony                                                               
River  Airport.  The issue  is the encroachment   of the village                                                                
on the existing facility; the airport will be relocated.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked  if the  items were  federal  funds.                                                               
Ms. Slagle said they were federal funds with state match.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  commented  that some of  the airports  may                                                               
be  overbuilding  and  stated  concerns  if  the  state  was  not                                                               
involved  in  the  projects.   Ms.  Slagle  responded   that  the                                                               
state  is involved  because it is  doing the  work; FAA has  much                                                               
say in  what airports  they will  fund, especially  if there  are                                                               
runway  safety  issues.  The  funds  are  provided   with  strict                                                               
requirements   of   needs.  The   funds  are   federal  but   are                                                               
matched.   The  state  does  identify   projects  and  establish                                                                
priorities  based on  need, safety,  and community  support,  but                                                               
the state works closely with FAA.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly   registered   concern   regarding   small                                                               
improvements   that  end  up  being  larger,   as  well  as  more                                                               
involved   and  costly.   He  commented   on  the  size   of  the                                                               
population   in   the  communities    and  questioned   complete                                                                
relocation of the airports.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle   elaborated   that  many  of   the  expansions   and                                                               
relocations  are  because of  safety  issues. Schools  are  right                                                               
next to  runways. There  are numerous  points  of consideration.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Section 26(d). Capital: Airport Improvement Program                                                                            
           Appropriation                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           The FY07  Airport Improvement  Program  appropriation                                                                
           increases  by $9,000.0  due to the  allocation  change                                                               
           below:                                                                                                               
           Sec 1, Ch 82, SLA 2006, Pg 88, Ln 32.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Section 26(e). Capital: Airport Improvement Program                                                                            
           Allocation                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
           Amend  Kipnuk:  Airport  Reconstruction   by $9,000.0                                                                
           from $2,600.0 to $11,600.0                                                                                           
           Sec 1, Ch 82, SLA 2006, Pg 91, Lns 3-4                                                                               
           Funding  delayed  to  July  would  delay  significant                                                                
           draw  down   of   the  grant   until   the  following                                                                
           construction  season.  FAA is requiring  early  fiscal                                                               
           year  delivery  dates  to  ensure  that  projects  are                                                               
           developed  and  bid early  enough  to  take advantage                                                                
           of the  construction  season  in  the year  the  grant                                                               
           is issued.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle   detailed  the  two  items   as  appropriation   and                                                               
allocation  for an  amendment to  add federal  receipt authority                                                                
for  Kipnuk  Airport  reconstruction.  The  engineer's  estimate                                                                
has increased significantly.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault highlighted the increase of 500 percent.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  queried  if the  match functions  similar                                                                
to  highway   funding.  Ms.  Slagle   answered  that  a  certain                                                                
amount  of  money  is provided   in match  that  will  support  a                                                               
certain  size  of program.   Other projects   will not  get  done                                                               
because of the increase in this one.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  asked if  the department  made  the decision                                                                
regarding   which  projects  are   completed  and  the  criteria                                                                
used.  Ms. Slagle stated  that there  is a set  of criteria  that                                                               
determine  how projects  rank. The  Aviation  Project Evaluation                                                                
Board   reviews   each   project   to  determine    the  highest                                                                
priorities,    especially   after   receiving   new   engineer's                                                                
estimates.  Bids  on existing  projects  are taken  into account                                                                
as well.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:04:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 Section 26(f). Central Region Support Services                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           The  Environmental    Protection   Agency  (EPA)   has                                                               
           initiated  an  enforcement   action  against  DOT&PF,                                                                
           alleging  multiple  violations   of  the  Clean  Water                                                               
           Act.  In  addition,  EPA  is  requesting  information                                                                
           regarding  sand  and gravel  sources.    EPA believes                                                                
           that   DOT&PF   and   its   contractors    have   been                                                               
           operating  material sites  without  appropriate  storm                                                               
           water permits.                                                                                                       
           The  EPA  has  proposed  settling   the  case  if  the                                                               
           State  agrees to  the  entry of  a consent  decree(s)                                                                
           that  could   involve  the  payment   of  significant                                                                
           fines  (Idaho  and  Hawaii  have  paid fines  between                                                                
           $500,000  and  $1,000,000),  be  required  to conduct                                                                
           supplemental  environmental   projects,   and provide                                                                
           training within DOT&PF.                                                                                              
           This  funding  would  be  used to  collect  evidence,                                                                
           present   a   defense   and   begin   negotiating    a                                                               
           settlement.   It  is   anticipated   that  costs   are                                                               
           expected  to  be  at  least  $500.0  during  calendar                                                                
           year  2008 so  an extended  lapse  date  through  June                                                               
           30, 2009 is requested.                                                                                               
                                                        $500,000                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle   turned  to   the  last  item   requesting   GF  for                                                               
collecting  evidence,  developing   a defense,  and  negotiating                                                                
with  EPA  regarding  violations  in  connection  with  the  2002                                                               
Kenai   floods.  Projects   include   the  C   Street  extension                                                                
project,  the Abbott  Loop extension  project,  and the Soldotna                                                                
project.  The  majority  of the  violations  identified  have  to                                                               
do with  issues such  as paperwork,  permitting,  or identifying                                                                
a qualified  inspector.  The  department  does not  think any  of                                                               
the  violations  are  related to  contamination.   Costs include                                                                
legal  fees,  contractor  costs,  and hiring  expert  witnesses.                                                                
The  department  is attempting  to  avoid  a consent  decree  and                                                               
fines.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  thought  that the  money would  be spent  and                                                               
the state would still get fined.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly addressed   the issue  of  matched  funds.                                                               
He  asked  who  was  monitoring  the  way  the  funds  are  being                                                               
spent.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  pointed  out  that  the  department   has  over  $10                                                               
million  dollars in  the project  already, so  it is double,  not                                                               
500  percent  over. Co-Chair  Chenault   maintained  that DOT/PF                                                                
only   has  the   authority   for  $2.8   million.   Ms.   Slagle                                                               
disagreed,   noting   $10.1   million   dollars    in  authority                                                                
appropriated by the legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault  advised   that  the   request  was   for  $9                                                               
million  more,  but  the sheet  does  not  indicate  the further                                                                
authority.  Ms.  Slagle  thought there  might  be a  misprint  on                                                               
the spreadsheet.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Slagle   then   responded    to   Representative   Kelly's                                                                
question.  She  explained  that dealing  with  the  program is  a                                                               
balancing  act.  The  project evaluation   board  determines  the                                                               
priority  of projects.  Some of  the project  can be done  later.                                                               
Representative  Kelly  thought  that some  of the  items did  not                                                               
make sense.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:12:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara asked  if  airport projects  got  the  same                                                               
federal  match as  highway  projects.  Ms. Slagle  answered  that                                                               
the  state match  rate  for aviation  projects  is  four percent                                                                
and highways is closer to nine percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Statewide Services: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Anchorage Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Kenai Peninsula Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Kodiak College:        Increase Fuel Costs                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Matanuska-Susitna College:        Increase    Fuel                                                               
     Costs                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Prince William Sound Community College:                                                                          
     Increase Fuel Costs                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Bristol Bay Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Chukchi Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Fairbanks Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Interior-Aleutians Campus: Increase Fuel                                                                         
     Costs                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Kuskokwim Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Northwest Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Juneau Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Ketchikan Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08,  UA  is  requesting   a  FY08  supplemental   to                                                               
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 7 - 9. Sitka Campus: Increase Fuel Costs                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Funding  received   in  FY08  as  part  of   the  fuel                                                               
           trigger  mechanism  only replaced  the  FY07 one-time                                                                
           funding,  leaving  UA  at  the  FY07  funding  level.                                                                
           Therefore,   in  addition   to  the   existing   funds                                                               
           received  through   the  fuel  trigger  mechanism   in                                                               
           FY08, UA is requesting a FY08 supplemental to                                                                        
           cover the utility increases from FY07 to FY08.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PAT PITNEY,  VICE  PRESIDENT,  PLANNING  AND BUDGET,  UNIVERSITY                                                                
OF ALASKA  (Testified  via  Teleconference),  summarized  the  15                                                               
items  as a campus  by campus breakout  for fuel  cost increases                                                                
in excess  of funding  available  through the  trigger mechanism                                                                
of  oil prices.  She  agreed  with  earlier  comments  regarding                                                                
the trigger  mechanism  in  the current  budget.  She thought  it                                                               
worked  well,  but was  not sufficient,  since  the  cap was  set                                                               
at only  $59 per barrel.  In total,  the University's  items  add                                                               
up to  $2.3  million  and cover  all fuel  including  electrical                                                                
utilities.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Rehfeld   spoke    to   general   issues   regarding    the                                                               
supplemental  bill.  She explained  that both  early and regular                                                                
request  items were  put in  the same  bill for  efficiency,  but                                                               
acknowledged  confusion.   She clarified   that number  sections                                                                
are in  the front.  Sections  1 through  3 are in  the front  and                                                               
are  called   the  early  or  fast  track   supplemental   items.                                                               
Sections  13  through  18  in the  language  sections  represent                                                                
fast  track items,  which  have  a higher  need to  be addressed                                                                
earlier.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  pointed   out  an  item  that  was  missed  in  the                                                               
Courts  presentation.  The  request for  the Fairbanks  judicial                                                                
chambers  should  be in  the fast  track  section;  an amendment                                                                
will be sent for that.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly   noted  the  increase   in  supplemental                                                                
requests  and asked  if the  process would  move  towards a  more                                                               
normal  process.  Ms. Rehfeld  hoped  to  set goals  to minimize                                                                
supplemental   requests   and   amendments.   Things   that   the                                                               
administration   believes   are   important   and  that  have   a                                                               
continuous  on-going   impact  in FY  09  will be  put  into  the                                                               
2009  budget.  She noted  that  the  fuel has  worked  well,  but                                                               
will  need   to  be  addressed   because   of  oil  prices.   The                                                               
administration  was  reluctant  to pick  what the  number  should                                                               
be as it will be adjusted again.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:19:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly queried   the final  supplemental   total.                                                               
Ms.  Rehfeld  answered  the  total was  $257  million  all  funds                                                               
and $205 million general fund.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  asked how  the $205 GF  amount compares  to                                                               
the last  to years  of the  prior administration   and the  first                                                               
two years  of the present  one.  Ms. Rehfeld  did not have  those                                                               
numbers,  but  noted significant   pieces  in the  $205 million:                                                                
$125   million   in  tax   credit,  $18.5   million   in   senior                                                               
benefits,   and   $13.5   million    for  the   GGU   agreements                                                                
retroactive  to  July  1.  Bargaining  unit  agreements,  to  the                                                               
extent that they are known, should be included in next                                                                          
year's budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly voiced relief in hearing the bigger                                                                        
costs listed. He wanted the supplemental budget to function                                                                     
as it was intended.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB 343 HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                                  
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 4:20 PM.                                                                                           

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